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Attributes | |
ACN | 272757 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : spg |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 1600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : spg |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 13 flight time total : 250 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 272757 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
On may/sat/94, approximately XA30 local, 4 of us flying on an instrument flight plan from mlb to our destination, albert whittied (spg). We were cruising at an altitude of 6000 ft as we neared the east side of the tampa bay area. Tampa approach cleared us down to 3000 ft and, soon after, was trying to get us under the cloud layer for a visual approach. We were approximately 5 mi away from spg at 1600 ft for the visual to runway 36 when approach told us to contact tower (no frequency). I was working radios and had already put in standby 120.4 (published tower frequency). When I reported left base runway 36, nobody replied. After 3 tires, I told the PIC I could not contact tower and I felt we should contact approach again to let someone know of our situation (now approximately 3 mi east, 'no contact'). Approach quickly said tower changed to 124.4 and to call back, as soon as possible. We did and reached them. The tower operator said we had violated their airspace and cleared us to land -- being 'final traffic' (very unsafe condition). In all current published charts, facility, directory, and approach plates state the incorrect frequency, and as far as our WX briefings we remember no such mention of NOTAMS. My suggestion is print correct frequencys or make sure approach tells the correct frequency or tower needs to listen to both!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR SAFETY PLT OF AN SMA SEL USED THE OLD WRONG TWR FREQ RESULTING IN ENTERING AN ATA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: ON MAY/SAT/94, APPROX XA30 LCL, 4 OF US FLYING ON AN INST FLT PLAN FROM MLB TO OUR DEST, ALBERT WHITTIED (SPG). WE WERE CRUISING AT AN ALT OF 6000 FT AS WE NEARED THE E SIDE OF THE TAMPA BAY AREA. TAMPA APCH CLRED US DOWN TO 3000 FT AND, SOON AFTER, WAS TRYING TO GET US UNDER THE CLOUD LAYER FOR A VISUAL APCH. WE WERE APPROX 5 MI AWAY FROM SPG AT 1600 FT FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 36 WHEN APCH TOLD US TO CONTACT TWR (NO FREQ). I WAS WORKING RADIOS AND HAD ALREADY PUT IN STANDBY 120.4 (PUBLISHED TWR FREQ). WHEN I RPTED L BASE RWY 36, NOBODY REPLIED. AFTER 3 TIRES, I TOLD THE PIC I COULD NOT CONTACT TWR AND I FELT WE SHOULD CONTACT APCH AGAIN TO LET SOMEONE KNOW OF OUR SIT (NOW APPROX 3 MI E, 'NO CONTACT'). APCH QUICKLY SAID TWR CHANGED TO 124.4 AND TO CALL BACK, ASAP. WE DID AND REACHED THEM. THE TWR OPERATOR SAID WE HAD VIOLATED THEIR AIRSPACE AND CLRED US TO LAND -- BEING 'FINAL TFC' (VERY UNSAFE CONDITION). IN ALL CURRENT PUBLISHED CHARTS, FACILITY, DIRECTORY, AND APCH PLATES STATE THE INCORRECT FREQ, AND AS FAR AS OUR WX BRIEFINGS WE REMEMBER NO SUCH MENTION OF NOTAMS. MY SUGGESTION IS PRINT CORRECT FREQS OR MAKE SURE APCH TELLS THE CORRECT FREQ OR TWR NEEDS TO LISTEN TO BOTH!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.