Flight crew of an light transport cpr jet used portion of a closed runway for the takeoff roll.

Attributes
ACN	273088
Time
Date	199405
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : stj
State Reference	MO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	273088
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We had flown into stj at approximately XA15Z to pick up 7 passenger. The airport was unfamiliar to both of us. I had used jet plan to obtain flight plans, WX, and NOTAMS, and noted that the first 3000 ft of runway 17 was closed. This left 4900 ft for landing which was no problem. The other pilot and I had decided to use runway 13 (6000 ft) for departure since our takeoff field length requirement was about 4500 ft. When I got the clearance from ground I informed them that we would be needing runway 13 for takeoff. They informed me that runway 13 was closed and had been for approximately 3 yrs. I then asked them if we could use 500 ft of the closed portion of runway 17 (there was actually nothing wrong with, or men working on the runway. They were working on a parallel taxiway on the east side of the runway) and was told we would have to clear it with security. I then told the other pilot about the runway closure. His response was 'oh well.' as I was taxiing out he insisted that I taxi past the hold line onto the closed portion anyway. We were about 100 ft into it when the tower told us to turn around and that they had not received permission from security to let us on the closed portion. I turned around and the other pilot insisted that I stop and use about 200 ft of the closed portion for takeoff. I did that and the takeoff was uneventful. Our up-to- date charts and airport directory showed 13/31 open. I later called them to inform them about the mistake. I had planned the flight to use and should have called security and gotten permission to use the closed portion of runway 17. I also should not have used the closed portion of runway 17 without permission.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN LTT CPR JET USED PORTION OF A CLOSED RWY FOR THE TKOF ROLL.

Narrative: WE HAD FLOWN INTO STJ AT APPROX XA15Z TO PICK UP 7 PAX. THE ARPT WAS UNFAMILIAR TO BOTH OF US. I HAD USED JET PLAN TO OBTAIN FLT PLANS, WX, AND NOTAMS, AND NOTED THAT THE FIRST 3000 FT OF RWY 17 WAS CLOSED. THIS LEFT 4900 FT FOR LNDG WHICH WAS NO PROB. THE OTHER PLT AND I HAD DECIDED TO USE RWY 13 (6000 FT) FOR DEP SINCE OUR TKOF FIELD LENGTH REQUIREMENT WAS ABOUT 4500 FT. WHEN I GOT THE CLRNC FROM GND I INFORMED THEM THAT WE WOULD BE NEEDING RWY 13 FOR TKOF. THEY INFORMED ME THAT RWY 13 WAS CLOSED AND HAD BEEN FOR APPROX 3 YRS. I THEN ASKED THEM IF WE COULD USE 500 FT OF THE CLOSED PORTION OF RWY 17 (THERE WAS ACTUALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH, OR MEN WORKING ON THE RWY. THEY WERE WORKING ON A PARALLEL TXWY ON THE E SIDE OF THE RWY) AND WAS TOLD WE WOULD HAVE TO CLR IT WITH SECURITY. I THEN TOLD THE OTHER PLT ABOUT THE RWY CLOSURE. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'OH WELL.' AS I WAS TAXIING OUT HE INSISTED THAT I TAXI PAST THE HOLD LINE ONTO THE CLOSED PORTION ANYWAY. WE WERE ABOUT 100 FT INTO IT WHEN THE TWR TOLD US TO TURN AROUND AND THAT THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED PERMISSION FROM SECURITY TO LET US ON THE CLOSED PORTION. I TURNED AROUND AND THE OTHER PLT INSISTED THAT I STOP AND USE ABOUT 200 FT OF THE CLOSED PORTION FOR TKOF. I DID THAT AND THE TKOF WAS UNEVENTFUL. OUR UP-TO- DATE CHARTS AND ARPT DIRECTORY SHOWED 13/31 OPEN. I LATER CALLED THEM TO INFORM THEM ABOUT THE MISTAKE. I HAD PLANNED THE FLT TO USE AND SHOULD HAVE CALLED SECURITY AND GOTTEN PERMISSION TO USE THE CLOSED PORTION OF RWY 17. I ALSO SHOULD NOT HAVE USED THE CLOSED PORTION OF RWY 17 WITHOUT PERMISSION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.