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Attributes | |
ACN | 273987 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 273987 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Ord tower asked us at 1000 ft AGL on final for runway 9R if the runway lights were working. We reported they were not and landed. An aircraft commander then stated 'I don't think that's legal' and went around. I have no idea about legality. I haven't been able to find it in anything I have. Common sense says it was ok since there was enough light to pick out the lights unlit, but what does common sense have to do with anything these days.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF ACR MLG LANDED AT DUSK WHEN THE RWY LIGHTS WERE NOT ILLUMINATED.
Narrative: ORD TWR ASKED US AT 1000 FT AGL ON FINAL FOR RWY 9R IF THE RWY LIGHTS WERE WORKING. WE RPTED THEY WERE NOT AND LANDED. AN ACFT COMMANDER THEN STATED 'I DON'T THINK THAT'S LEGAL' AND WENT AROUND. I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT LEGALITY. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT IN ANYTHING I HAVE. COMMON SENSE SAYS IT WAS OK SINCE THERE WAS ENOUGH LIGHT TO PICK OUT THE LIGHTS UNLIT, BUT WHAT DOES COMMON SENSE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING THESE DAYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.