Runway incursion. Unauthorized runway entry.

Attributes
ACN	274442
Time
Date	199406
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : roa
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	274442
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Taxiing for takeoff to runway 6 at roa, we rolled approximately 50 ft past the hold short line for runway 6. The hold short line is on taxiway east. East of taxiway J and adjacent to it is a sign stating, 'hold short line for runway 6 approximately 100 ft ahead.' the location of the hold short line combined with the '100 ft ahead' sign leads you to believe there is another hold short line ahead and that the one that we crossed is for aircraft departing from taxiway J. After the controller told us that we had crossed the runway 6 hold short line and to hold our position. I asked about the sign and he stated that they have problems with aircraft crossing the hold short line 'all the time' and that they have talked to the airport manager who they said is responsible for the sign and obviously has done nothing about it.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RWY INCURSION. UNAUTH RWY ENTRY.

Narrative: TAXIING FOR TKOF TO RWY 6 AT ROA, WE ROLLED APPROX 50 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 6. THE HOLD SHORT LINE IS ON TXWY E. E OF TXWY J AND ADJACENT TO IT IS A SIGN STATING, 'HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 6 APPROX 100 FT AHEAD.' THE LOCATION OF THE HOLD SHORT LINE COMBINED WITH THE '100 FT AHEAD' SIGN LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THERE IS ANOTHER HOLD SHORT LINE AHEAD AND THAT THE ONE THAT WE CROSSED IS FOR ACFT DEPARTING FROM TXWY J. AFTER THE CTLR TOLD US THAT WE HAD CROSSED THE RWY 6 HOLD SHORT LINE AND TO HOLD OUR POS. I ASKED ABOUT THE SIGN AND HE STATED THAT THEY HAVE PROBS WITH ACFT XING THE HOLD SHORT LINE 'ALL THE TIME' AND THAT THEY HAVE TALKED TO THE ARPT MGR WHO THEY SAID IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIGN AND OBVIOUSLY HAS DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.