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Attributes | |
ACN | 279406 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : n90 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 279406 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on 'kennebunk' 3 arrival at jfk, after passing 'rober,' descending through 9000 ft, cleared to 8000 ft and under radar control. We had a TA, intruder at 10 O'clock, about 5 NM on TCASII display. I was unable to see the traffic but the controller gave us information about it. At the same time we had an RA 'climb, crossing, climb.' I didn't comply because the approach controller was saying that traffic had us in visual contact and was passing behind. Almost simultaneously the flight engineer, looking down at the TCASII display, called for traffic very close, same altitude, while a second RA 'climb, crossing, climb' was going on. I promptly disengaged the autoplt and I reduced rate of descent. I believe that TCASII has generally positive effects in enhancing flight safety but sometimes too many inputs cause an overload on flight crew and could be difficult to select the right course of actions. I was, in fact, listening to the information at ATC, while TCASII advisories and flight engineer shouting were like backgnd noise but actually very important complementary information I risked to miss.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A B747 STOPS ARR DSCNT IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA. TA NOT GIVEN. TFC NOT SIGHTED.
Narrative: WE WERE ON 'KENNEBUNK' 3 ARR AT JFK, AFTER PASSING 'ROBER,' DSNDING THROUGH 9000 FT, CLRED TO 8000 FT AND UNDER RADAR CTL. WE HAD A TA, INTRUDER AT 10 O'CLOCK, ABOUT 5 NM ON TCASII DISPLAY. I WAS UNABLE TO SEE THE TFC BUT THE CTLR GAVE US INFO ABOUT IT. AT THE SAME TIME WE HAD AN RA 'CLB, XING, CLB.' I DIDN'T COMPLY BECAUSE THE APCH CTLR WAS SAYING THAT TFC HAD US IN VISUAL CONTACT AND WAS PASSING BEHIND. ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY THE FE, LOOKING DOWN AT THE TCASII DISPLAY, CALLED FOR TFC VERY CLOSE, SAME ALT, WHILE A SECOND RA 'CLB, XING, CLB' WAS GOING ON. I PROMPTLY DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT AND I REDUCED RATE OF DSCNT. I BELIEVE THAT TCASII HAS GENERALLY POSITIVE EFFECTS IN ENHANCING FLT SAFETY BUT SOMETIMES TOO MANY INPUTS CAUSE AN OVERLOAD ON FLC AND COULD BE DIFFICULT TO SELECT THE RIGHT COURSE OF ACTIONS. I WAS, IN FACT, LISTENING TO THE INFO AT ATC, WHILE TCASII ADVISORIES AND FE SHOUTING WERE LIKE BACKGND NOISE BUT ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT COMPLEMENTARY INFO I RISKED TO MISS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.