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Attributes | |
ACN | 282070 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : aeg |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 282070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on a routine instrument training flight at aeg, talking to abq approach. As we turned inbound, they advised us of opposite direction same altitude traffic. We observed a twin pass to our right. After we reported established on the localizer, approach advised us that the previous traffic had done a 180 degree turn and was coming back at us. We looked, turned left to avoid the twin. We asked approach what was going on. They said they weren't talking to the other aircraft, and asked for its tail number. We did not have it. The other aircraft was apparently practicing ILS procedures without talking to approach. And though it is uncontrolled airspace, contact is recommended.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A ROUTINE INST TRAINING FLT AT AEG, TALKING TO ABQ APCH. AS WE TURNED INBOUND, THEY ADVISED US OF OPPOSITE DIRECTION SAME ALT TFC. WE OBSERVED A TWIN PASS TO OUR R. AFTER WE RPTED ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC, APCH ADVISED US THAT THE PREVIOUS TFC HAD DONE A 180 DEG TURN AND WAS COMING BACK AT US. WE LOOKED, TURNED L TO AVOID THE TWIN. WE ASKED APCH WHAT WAS GOING ON. THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T TALKING TO THE OTHER ACFT, AND ASKED FOR ITS TAIL NUMBER. WE DID NOT HAVE IT. THE OTHER ACFT WAS APPARENTLY PRACTICING ILS PROCS WITHOUT TALKING TO APCH. AND THOUGH IT IS UNCTLED AIRSPACE, CONTACT IS RECOMMENDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.