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Attributes | |
ACN | 283034 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hro |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : tol |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Amateur (Home) Built |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 283034 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 283033 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying from bdk to hro on a VFR day at 4500 ft we began our descent about 15 mi out and on CTAF made a position and intentions report. About 10 mi out we made another call. No reply from anyone. We entered a left base for runway 18 about 5 mi out, and made another traffic call. No reply. We had about a 4 KT tailwind component and the wind was reported 300 degrees at 7 KTS. We turned about a 5 mi final and made another traffic call. We never saw or heard anything. Then again on short final made another traffic call. As we were coming to a stop, at taxi speed, we noticed a small red tailwheel airplane on the far end of the runway. He was at least 2000 ft down. We couldn't really tell what he was doing. We later found out that he had been in the pattern for runway 36. He had no radio, which is legal, we just never saw him. When he saw us, I guess he tried to turn while going too fast and gndlooped his plane. The plane suffered landing gear and propeller damage. No one was injured. The wind was favoring runway 36, but when there is no other traffic and the wind is light we occasionally land downwind, depending on which direction we are arriving from. We are allowed up to a 10 KT tailwind component (in that airplane). We were well within that. I personally fly in and out of hro 32 times a month and am very aware of the small experimental and homebuilt traffic in the area, and am always on the lookout! I don't know if the airplane in this case was flying real low or what, we just never saw him. I don't know exactly what kind of plane it was other than a high wing tailwheel homebuilt. For what it's worth, I'm certain that we were on the ground before the other plane, as we were almost stopped when we saw him coming. I think one thing that could be done to prevent these sits is require airplanes that fly into airports served by airlines to have a radio, at least a receiver.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLC ARE STARTLED BY OBSERVING ANOTHER ACFT LNDG IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AT AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING FROM BDK TO HRO ON A VFR DAY AT 4500 FT WE BEGAN OUR DSCNT ABOUT 15 MI OUT AND ON CTAF MADE A POS AND INTENTIONS RPT. ABOUT 10 MI OUT WE MADE ANOTHER CALL. NO REPLY FROM ANYONE. WE ENTERED A L BASE FOR RWY 18 ABOUT 5 MI OUT, AND MADE ANOTHER TFC CALL. NO REPLY. WE HAD ABOUT A 4 KT TAILWIND COMPONENT AND THE WIND WAS RPTED 300 DEGS AT 7 KTS. WE TURNED ABOUT A 5 MI FINAL AND MADE ANOTHER TFC CALL. WE NEVER SAW OR HEARD ANYTHING. THEN AGAIN ON SHORT FINAL MADE ANOTHER TFC CALL. AS WE WERE COMING TO A STOP, AT TAXI SPD, WE NOTICED A SMALL RED TAILWHEEL AIRPLANE ON THE FAR END OF THE RWY. HE WAS AT LEAST 2000 FT DOWN. WE COULDN'T REALLY TELL WHAT HE WAS DOING. WE LATER FOUND OUT THAT HE HAD BEEN IN THE PATTERN FOR RWY 36. HE HAD NO RADIO, WHICH IS LEGAL, WE JUST NEVER SAW HIM. WHEN HE SAW US, I GUESS HE TRIED TO TURN WHILE GOING TOO FAST AND GNDLOOPED HIS PLANE. THE PLANE SUFFERED LNDG GEAR AND PROP DAMAGE. NO ONE WAS INJURED. THE WIND WAS FAVORING RWY 36, BUT WHEN THERE IS NO OTHER TFC AND THE WIND IS LIGHT WE OCCASIONALLY LAND DOWNWIND, DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE ARRIVING FROM. WE ARE ALLOWED UP TO A 10 KT TAILWIND COMPONENT (IN THAT AIRPLANE). WE WERE WELL WITHIN THAT. I PERSONALLY FLY IN AND OUT OF HRO 32 TIMES A MONTH AND AM VERY AWARE OF THE SMALL EXPERIMENTAL AND HOMEBUILT TFC IN THE AREA, AND AM ALWAYS ON THE LOOKOUT! I DON'T KNOW IF THE AIRPLANE IN THIS CASE WAS FLYING REAL LOW OR WHAT, WE JUST NEVER SAW HIM. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF PLANE IT WAS OTHER THAN A HIGH WING TAILWHEEL HOMEBUILT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I'M CERTAIN THAT WE WERE ON THE GND BEFORE THE OTHER PLANE, AS WE WERE ALMOST STOPPED WHEN WE SAW HIM COMING. I THINK ONE THING THAT COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT THESE SITS IS REQUIRE AIRPLANES THAT FLY INTO ARPTS SERVED BY AIRLINES TO HAVE A RADIO, AT LEAST A RECEIVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.