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Attributes | |
ACN | 284976 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 284976 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were operating flight from memphis to chicago O'hare. This was the first day, second leg, of a 3 day trip. Although I had never met the captain previously, he ostensibly seemed amicable and knowledgeable about the a- 320. But I did notice some non-standard actions on his part relative to the utilization of the autothrust and autoplt. I've been instructing on the A-320 for 4 yrs and felt that quite possibly I'd mention the non-standard actions in the relaxed setting of a layover hotel restaurant or some similar environment. But after only 1 leg I did not want to appear as a 'know it all' instructor. I mention all this because of the relevance to the 'incident.' we landed at chicago O'hare on runway 14R. After exiting the runway, one of my first tasks is to obtain taxi clearance from ground control. Tower informed us to switch to ground control which I did. At this point, the captain continued to taxi! Due to the high volume of taxiing aircraft, the frequency was non-stop communication and I could not break in to request taxi clearance. I told the captain we did not receive taxi clearance but he continued to taxi towards our gates. I told him again that we don't have taxi clearance, but he continued to taxi. He told me he would stay on the ground control frequency on radio #1, and that I should talk to the company and also the non- ATC ramp facility on the #2 radio. I did so and the company acknowledged our arrival to O'hare and ramp control told us our gate and the 'alley' was clear so we could taxi on 'their' ramp. At no time did the captain stop the aircraft, so I assumed he received taxi instructions from ATC ground. After we arrived at our gate, completed the appropriate tasks and checklists and were preparing for the next leg: I asked the captain what the ground controller said to him considering we taxied so far without a formal clearance. He then told me that he never talked to the ground controller. Corrective action for the short-term -- I will not fly with this person again, and plan to talk to professional standards.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A-320 FLC FAILS TO OBTAIN TAXI CLRNC AT ORD AFTER LNDG AND CLRING RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE OPERATING FLT FROM MEMPHIS TO CHICAGO O'HARE. THIS WAS THE FIRST DAY, SECOND LEG, OF A 3 DAY TRIP. ALTHOUGH I HAD NEVER MET THE CAPT PREVIOUSLY, HE OSTENSIBLY SEEMED AMICABLE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE A- 320. BUT I DID NOTICE SOME NON-STANDARD ACTIONS ON HIS PART RELATIVE TO THE UTILIZATION OF THE AUTOTHRUST AND AUTOPLT. I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTING ON THE A-320 FOR 4 YRS AND FELT THAT QUITE POSSIBLY I'D MENTION THE NON-STANDARD ACTIONS IN THE RELAXED SETTING OF A LAYOVER HOTEL RESTAURANT OR SOME SIMILAR ENVIRONMENT. BUT AFTER ONLY 1 LEG I DID NOT WANT TO APPEAR AS A 'KNOW IT ALL' INSTRUCTOR. I MENTION ALL THIS BECAUSE OF THE RELEVANCE TO THE 'INCIDENT.' WE LANDED AT CHICAGO O'HARE ON RWY 14R. AFTER EXITING THE RWY, ONE OF MY FIRST TASKS IS TO OBTAIN TAXI CLRNC FROM GND CTL. TWR INFORMED US TO SWITCH TO GND CTL WHICH I DID. AT THIS POINT, THE CAPT CONTINUED TO TAXI! DUE TO THE HIGH VOLUME OF TAXIING ACFT, THE FREQ WAS NON-STOP COM AND I COULD NOT BREAK IN TO REQUEST TAXI CLRNC. I TOLD THE CAPT WE DID NOT RECEIVE TAXI CLRNC BUT HE CONTINUED TO TAXI TOWARDS OUR GATES. I TOLD HIM AGAIN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TAXI CLRNC, BUT HE CONTINUED TO TAXI. HE TOLD ME HE WOULD STAY ON THE GND CTL FREQ ON RADIO #1, AND THAT I SHOULD TALK TO THE COMPANY AND ALSO THE NON- ATC RAMP FACILITY ON THE #2 RADIO. I DID SO AND THE COMPANY ACKNOWLEDGED OUR ARR TO O'HARE AND RAMP CTL TOLD US OUR GATE AND THE 'ALLEY' WAS CLR SO WE COULD TAXI ON 'THEIR' RAMP. AT NO TIME DID THE CAPT STOP THE ACFT, SO I ASSUMED HE RECEIVED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS FROM ATC GND. AFTER WE ARRIVED AT OUR GATE, COMPLETED THE APPROPRIATE TASKS AND CHKLISTS AND WERE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT LEG: I ASKED THE CAPT WHAT THE GND CTLR SAID TO HIM CONSIDERING WE TAXIED SO FAR WITHOUT A FORMAL CLRNC. HE THEN TOLD ME THAT HE NEVER TALKED TO THE GND CTLR. CORRECTIVE ACTION FOR THE SHORT-TERM -- I WILL NOT FLY WITH THIS PERSON AGAIN, AND PLAN TO TALK TO PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.