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Attributes | |
ACN | 288423 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu tower : rdu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 288423 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At 8000 ft and 11 mi 270 degree heading for runway 23L received clearance to 4000 ft with frequency switch. Power idle -- slats extended and full boards (airspeed) 220 KTS obviously had trouble getting down. Clear sky -- calm winds, exceeded 1000 FPM rule below 1000 ft afl. Received GPWS descent rate call on VASI at 500 ft but still fast by 30 KTS. Landed at far edge of touchdown. Could have turned off at taxiway east but did not want to jump on brakes. First officer never said a word, however both of us thought about a go around. Once we were below 100 ft with available runway considered it safer to land longer than normal than go around. Controllers must give the S80 ample room to descend even when the WX is great.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG WERE ABOVE THE MAX ALLOWED SPD AND DSCNT RATE BELOW 1000 FT AGL RESULTING A GPWS WARNING.
Narrative: AT 8000 FT AND 11 MI 270 DEG HDG FOR RWY 23L RECEIVED CLRNC TO 4000 FT WITH FREQ SWITCH. PWR IDLE -- SLATS EXTENDED AND FULL BOARDS (AIRSPD) 220 KTS OBVIOUSLY HAD TROUBLE GETTING DOWN. CLR SKY -- CALM WINDS, EXCEEDED 1000 FPM RULE BELOW 1000 FT AFL. RECEIVED GPWS DSCNT RATE CALL ON VASI AT 500 FT BUT STILL FAST BY 30 KTS. LANDED AT FAR EDGE OF TOUCHDOWN. COULD HAVE TURNED OFF AT TXWY E BUT DID NOT WANT TO JUMP ON BRAKES. FO NEVER SAID A WORD, HOWEVER BOTH OF US THOUGHT ABOUT A GAR. ONCE WE WERE BELOW 100 FT WITH AVAILABLE RWY CONSIDERED IT SAFER TO LAND LONGER THAN NORMAL THAN GAR. CTLRS MUST GIVE THE S80 AMPLE ROOM TO DSND EVEN WHEN THE WX IS GREAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.