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Attributes | |
ACN | 289554 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 289554 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10100 flight time type : 2400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
On left base heading 040 degrees being vectored to intercept runway 31L localizer. Told approach we had traffic level at 1 O'clock and was that our traffic. Approach answer 'yes' that was the (air carrier Y) flight we were going to follow. As we continued, the traffic we were watching became discernable as a (air carrier Z) heavy jet. We were then concerned because we were approaching localizer and on a collision course with it and who turned out to be on the runway 31R localizer. TCASII showed a TA which confirmed our concern. At that point approach asked us if we were still on base. We replied 'yes.' approach said we had been cleared for a visual and to turn in to follow the commuter (air carrier Y). By now we had overshot the localizer and approach gave the heavy aircraft a turn away to solve the conflict. At no time had we received nor acknowledged any clearance for a visual approach until then.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR.
Narrative: ON L BASE HDG 040 DEGS BEING VECTORED TO INTERCEPT RWY 31L LOC. TOLD APCH WE HAD TFC LEVEL AT 1 O'CLOCK AND WAS THAT OUR TFC. APCH ANSWER 'YES' THAT WAS THE (ACR Y) FLT WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW. AS WE CONTINUED, THE TFC WE WERE WATCHING BECAME DISCERNABLE AS A (ACR Z) HVY JET. WE WERE THEN CONCERNED BECAUSE WE WERE APCHING LOC AND ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH IT AND WHO TURNED OUT TO BE ON THE RWY 31R LOC. TCASII SHOWED A TA WHICH CONFIRMED OUR CONCERN. AT THAT POINT APCH ASKED US IF WE WERE STILL ON BASE. WE REPLIED 'YES.' APCH SAID WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR A VISUAL AND TO TURN IN TO FOLLOW THE COMMUTER (ACR Y). BY NOW WE HAD OVERSHOT THE LOC AND APCH GAVE THE HVY ACFT A TURN AWAY TO SOLVE THE CONFLICT. AT NO TIME HAD WE RECEIVED NOR ACKNOWLEDGED ANY CLRNC FOR A VISUAL APCH UNTIL THEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.