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Attributes | |
ACN | 290001 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 290001 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : undershoot |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing to FL330 in a heavy dc-9-50. Aircraft performance very sluggish at heavy weight. Climb thrust indicator failed, giving false and unreliable climb indications. These indications were not sufficient EPR to continue a climb to FL330. Told ATC we needed to start down just to be on the conservative side and we did start down. ATC immediately cleared us to FL290 and I don't believe any conflicts existed. Even though I am not aware of any conflicts this experience made me realize the importance of full attention during all realms of flight as a problem as small as this could become more serious if not monitored properly. My role was first officer, PNF. I was on the radio with ATC and advising captain of other such factors as monitoring airspeed, etc. Engines seemed rough also during failed thrust indicator problem but returned to normal when descending and using proper EPR settings out of handbook.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT UNABLE TO CTL TO ASSIGNED ALT USING IMPROPER ENG PWR SETTINGS.
Narrative: CLBING TO FL330 IN A HVY DC-9-50. ACFT PERFORMANCE VERY SLUGGISH AT HVY WT. CLB THRUST INDICATOR FAILED, GIVING FALSE AND UNRELIABLE CLB INDICATIONS. THESE INDICATIONS WERE NOT SUFFICIENT EPR TO CONTINUE A CLB TO FL330. TOLD ATC WE NEEDED TO START DOWN JUST TO BE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE AND WE DID START DOWN. ATC IMMEDIATELY CLRED US TO FL290 AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANY CONFLICTS EXISTED. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY CONFLICTS THIS EXPERIENCE MADE ME REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF FULL ATTN DURING ALL REALMS OF FLT AS A PROB AS SMALL AS THIS COULD BECOME MORE SERIOUS IF NOT MONITORED PROPERLY. MY ROLE WAS FO, PNF. I WAS ON THE RADIO WITH ATC AND ADVISING CAPT OF OTHER SUCH FACTORS AS MONITORING AIRSPD, ETC. ENGS SEEMED ROUGH ALSO DURING FAILED THRUST INDICATOR PROB BUT RETURNED TO NORMAL WHEN DSNDING AND USING PROPER EPR SETTINGS OUT OF HANDBOOK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.