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Attributes | |
ACN | 292523 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bna |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bna artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 255 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 292523 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Our flight was cleared to climb and maintain 7000 ft and our assigned heading was 140 degrees. From another transmission I knew that there was another aircraft inbound from the southeast (I think it was a dc-9, or maybe smaller). I had this aircraft in sight since I had departed bna. It looked like he was on a straight-in approach for runway 31. I didn't hear any more xmissions for a while but it is usually very quiet in bna at that time and I didn't think anything about it. Then the approaching jet, who I thought was going to pass well to our left side, turned left and cut in front of us and passed to our right side. I was very surprised by that since he got within probably 1-2 mi and departure control never told us about it or asked us to maintain visual separation. That upset me and I debated with myself if I was going to make a comment on the radio about it. I had my finger already on the push-to-talk switch but ended up saying nothing. Then after another 1-2 mins of silence, I heard approach calling a cessna to ask if he could try to contact our flight. We immediately answered and told him that we apparently had a radio failure for the past few mins. The departure controller made a joke about it and cleared us on course. So, I don't know if there was a conflict and if the controller had tried to assign us a different heading. But this shows clearly that a pilot should call the controller as soon as there is a doubtful situation developing that might need some clarification. If I would have made the call when I saw that aircraft turning to cross our flight path, I would have detected the radio failure in time to clear the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TEMPORARY RADIO FAILURE.
Narrative: OUR FLT WAS CLRED TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT AND OUR ASSIGNED HDG WAS 140 DEGS. FROM ANOTHER XMISSION I KNEW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT INBOUND FROM THE SE (I THINK IT WAS A DC-9, OR MAYBE SMALLER). I HAD THIS ACFT IN SIGHT SINCE I HAD DEPARTED BNA. IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS ON A STRAIGHT-IN APCH FOR RWY 31. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY MORE XMISSIONS FOR A WHILE BUT IT IS USUALLY VERY QUIET IN BNA AT THAT TIME AND I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEN THE APCHING JET, WHO I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO PASS WELL TO OUR L SIDE, TURNED L AND CUT IN FRONT OF US AND PASSED TO OUR R SIDE. I WAS VERY SURPRISED BY THAT SINCE HE GOT WITHIN PROBABLY 1-2 MI AND DEP CTL NEVER TOLD US ABOUT IT OR ASKED US TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. THAT UPSET ME AND I DEBATED WITH MYSELF IF I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE RADIO ABOUT IT. I HAD MY FINGER ALREADY ON THE PUSH-TO-TALK SWITCH BUT ENDED UP SAYING NOTHING. THEN AFTER ANOTHER 1-2 MINS OF SILENCE, I HEARD APCH CALLING A CESSNA TO ASK IF HE COULD TRY TO CONTACT OUR FLT. WE IMMEDIATELY ANSWERED AND TOLD HIM THAT WE APPARENTLY HAD A RADIO FAILURE FOR THE PAST FEW MINS. THE DEP CTLR MADE A JOKE ABOUT IT AND CLRED US ON COURSE. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CONFLICT AND IF THE CTLR HAD TRIED TO ASSIGN US A DIFFERENT HDG. BUT THIS SHOWS CLRLY THAT A PLT SHOULD CALL THE CTLR AS SOON AS THERE IS A DOUBTFUL SIT DEVELOPING THAT MIGHT NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. IF I WOULD HAVE MADE THE CALL WHEN I SAW THAT ACFT TURNING TO CROSS OUR FLT PATH, I WOULD HAVE DETECTED THE RADIO FAILURE IN TIME TO CLR THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.