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Attributes | |
ACN | 292900 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rnt |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1400 msl bound upper : 1400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rnt tower : gdl |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 659 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 292900 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During a recent training flight, I was supervising a student on his class B operation procedures. The flight took us to seattle to boeing field. We had radar flight following there and did 5 touch-and-goes at boeing field. After departing boeing, I asked for a frequency change so I could contact renton tower for a class D clearance. In the process of switching frequencys, my student was letting the plane drift dangerously close to getting into class B! After correcting him and watching, I noticed that we were already over the airport right in the middle of class D! I quickly called the tower and received a clearance promptly. The incursion did not cause any problem but I should have been more attentive. Flight instructors need to really be on the ball in busy terminal areas. I have realized from this experience that it is not easy to teach and to talk to controllers at the same time. Be careful not to get locked into doing one thing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNAUTH PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE.
Narrative: DURING A RECENT TRAINING FLT, I WAS SUPERVISING A STUDENT ON HIS CLASS B OP PROCS. THE FLT TOOK US TO SEATTLE TO BOEING FIELD. WE HAD RADAR FLT FOLLOWING THERE AND DID 5 TOUCH-AND-GOES AT BOEING FIELD. AFTER DEPARTING BOEING, I ASKED FOR A FREQ CHANGE SO I COULD CONTACT RENTON TWR FOR A CLASS D CLRNC. IN THE PROCESS OF SWITCHING FREQS, MY STUDENT WAS LETTING THE PLANE DRIFT DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO GETTING INTO CLASS B! AFTER CORRECTING HIM AND WATCHING, I NOTICED THAT WE WERE ALREADY OVER THE ARPT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF CLASS D! I QUICKLY CALLED THE TWR AND RECEIVED A CLRNC PROMPTLY. THE INCURSION DID NOT CAUSE ANY PROB BUT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ATTENTIVE. FLT INSTRUCTORS NEED TO REALLY BE ON THE BALL IN BUSY TERMINAL AREAS. I HAVE REALIZED FROM THIS EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS NOT EASY TO TEACH AND TO TALK TO CTLRS AT THE SAME TIME. BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET LOCKED INTO DOING ONE THING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.