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Attributes | |
ACN | 293309 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 24000 flight time type : 757 |
ASRS Report | 293309 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On jan/fri/95 flying pit-bos prior to departure we had light rain. Neither the first officer nor I recall the ATIS calling for light freezing rain. We had just flown the aircraft from sfo. The wings were cold soaked and rain droplets might be freezing on the wing. We checked other parts of the aircraft and found no evidence of freezing rain. On taxi out we requested our wings to be deiced. The rain had stopped and our wings were deiced with type I fluid. Subsequently, we were told ATIS had reported freezing rain which would have required type ii to be used. The conditions did not appear to be freezing or of great concern. In fact, many aircraft were not requesting deicing. If freezing rain is falling, type ii should be used without the pilot requesting it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE WRONG DEICING FLUID IS USED FOR THE RPTED CONDITIONS.
Narrative: ON JAN/FRI/95 FLYING PIT-BOS PRIOR TO DEP WE HAD LIGHT RAIN. NEITHER THE FO NOR I RECALL THE ATIS CALLING FOR LIGHT FREEZING RAIN. WE HAD JUST FLOWN THE ACFT FROM SFO. THE WINGS WERE COLD SOAKED AND RAIN DROPLETS MIGHT BE FREEZING ON THE WING. WE CHKED OTHER PARTS OF THE ACFT AND FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF FREEZING RAIN. ON TAXI OUT WE REQUESTED OUR WINGS TO BE DEICED. THE RAIN HAD STOPPED AND OUR WINGS WERE DEICED WITH TYPE I FLUID. SUBSEQUENTLY, WE WERE TOLD ATIS HAD RPTED FREEZING RAIN WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED TYPE II TO BE USED. THE CONDITIONS DID NOT APPEAR TO BE FREEZING OR OF GREAT CONCERN. IN FACT, MANY ACFT WERE NOT REQUESTING DEICING. IF FREEZING RAIN IS FALLING, TYPE II SHOULD BE USED WITHOUT THE PLT REQUESTING IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.