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Attributes | |
ACN | 293510 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 293510 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Visual approach on the buj arrival to dfw at about sunset, we were on the 45 degree intercept for runway 17L, when approach asked if we had the saab in sight in front of us. The first officer answered in the affirmative. Spacing looked good to me, probably because I was looking at the wrong saab, at least, as best I have been able to determine in my mind. It was the TCASII that alerted me to the close proximity to the traffic that were actually to be following. No TA occurred and the target did not turn yellow but indeed it was probably about 2 mi at my 2 O'clock position. We turned left off of the intercept heading and continued to the southeast and were instructed to reattempt contact with approach control for another approach. Arrival into the sun, multiple similar aircraft, first officer calling out traffic in sight prior to captain's positive verification are all contributory. I am aware that I take responsibility for separation on a visual.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT DURING VISUAL APCH.
Narrative: VISUAL APCH ON THE BUJ ARR TO DFW AT ABOUT SUNSET, WE WERE ON THE 45 DEG INTERCEPT FOR RWY 17L, WHEN APCH ASKED IF WE HAD THE SAAB IN SIGHT IN FRONT OF US. THE FO ANSWERED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SPACING LOOKED GOOD TO ME, PROBABLY BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG SAAB, AT LEAST, AS BEST I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE IN MY MIND. IT WAS THE TCASII THAT ALERTED ME TO THE CLOSE PROX TO THE TFC THAT WERE ACTUALLY TO BE FOLLOWING. NO TA OCCURRED AND THE TARGET DID NOT TURN YELLOW BUT INDEED IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 2 MI AT MY 2 O'CLOCK POS. WE TURNED L OFF OF THE INTERCEPT HDG AND CONTINUED TO THE SE AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO REATTEMPT CONTACT WITH APCH CTL FOR ANOTHER APCH. ARR INTO THE SUN, MULTIPLE SIMILAR ACFT, FO CALLING OUT TFC IN SIGHT PRIOR TO CAPT'S POSITIVE VERIFICATION ARE ALL CONTRIBUTORY. I AM AWARE THAT I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SEPARATION ON A VISUAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.