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Attributes | |
ACN | 294139 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 294139 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The departure ATIS was calling light freezing drizzle. The temperature was 34 degrees F, however, no precipitation was observed. During preflight walk-around, the aircraft was clear of ice and no precipitation of any sort was noted. Because of ATIS (light freezing drizzle), we decided to apply type I fluid as a precaution and since there was no precipitation, a holdover time was not required and type ii fluid was not necessary. Recently, I hear the FAA is looking into aircraft taking off during freezing rain with only type 1 fluid. ATIS was not current with the conditions and in my judgement we used extreme caution.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WRONG DE-ICING FLUID FOR THE RPTED CONDITIONS.
Narrative: THE DEP ATIS WAS CALLING LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE. THE TEMP WAS 34 DEGS F, HOWEVER, NO PRECIPITATION WAS OBSERVED. DURING PREFLT WALK-AROUND, THE ACFT WAS CLR OF ICE AND NO PRECIPITATION OF ANY SORT WAS NOTED. BECAUSE OF ATIS (LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE), WE DECIDED TO APPLY TYPE I FLUID AS A PRECAUTION AND SINCE THERE WAS NO PRECIPITATION, A HOLDOVER TIME WAS NOT REQUIRED AND TYPE II FLUID WAS NOT NECESSARY. RECENTLY, I HEAR THE FAA IS LOOKING INTO ACFT TAKING OFF DURING FREEZING RAIN WITH ONLY TYPE 1 FLUID. ATIS WAS NOT CURRENT WITH THE CONDITIONS AND IN MY JUDGEMENT WE USED EXTREME CAUTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.