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Attributes | |
ACN | 295950 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rmg airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : atl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 166 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 295950 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This incident points out the value of someone flying the airplane while 1 crew member briefs for the approach. We had been cleared to descend to 12000 ft. The first officer was briefing for the approach and I was watching the airplane. The first officer read a crossing altitude for the FAF that I did not recognize, so I looked down at my chart to check the correct altitude and advise the first officer. As a result, we descended through 12000 ft to approximately 11500 ft, at which point both of us caught the error and initiated a climb back to 12000 ft just as ATC questioned our altitude. We responded that we were in the process of correcting the overshoot. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter flies the dc-9-30 for an upstart air carrier. Previous to this, he had been flying the saab 340, and prior to that, dc-9's for a failed air carrier. He admits that the approach briefing was too late. He was distracted by a wrong statement in the first officer's briefing and turned away from the instruments at the wrong time. The first officer was new to the aircraft and the air carrier, and the reporter had never seen him before. The fact that the flight crew has to level off the aircraft while on autoplt, rather than let the aircraft do it itself as in the saab, 'creeps into the equation occasionally.' the reporter has not heard from the FAA on this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT OVERSHOT ON DSCNT.
Narrative: THIS INCIDENT POINTS OUT THE VALUE OF SOMEONE FLYING THE AIRPLANE WHILE 1 CREW MEMBER BRIEFS FOR THE APCH. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO DSND TO 12000 FT. THE FO WAS BRIEFING FOR THE APCH AND I WAS WATCHING THE AIRPLANE. THE FO READ A XING ALT FOR THE FAF THAT I DID NOT RECOGNIZE, SO I LOOKED DOWN AT MY CHART TO CHK THE CORRECT ALT AND ADVISE THE FO. AS A RESULT, WE DSNDED THROUGH 12000 FT TO APPROX 11500 FT, AT WHICH POINT BOTH OF US CAUGHT THE ERROR AND INITIATED A CLB BACK TO 12000 FT JUST AS ATC QUESTIONED OUR ALT. WE RESPONDED THAT WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CORRECTING THE OVERSHOOT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE DC-9-30 FOR AN UPSTART ACR. PREVIOUS TO THIS, HE HAD BEEN FLYING THE SAAB 340, AND PRIOR TO THAT, DC-9'S FOR A FAILED ACR. HE ADMITS THAT THE APCH BRIEFING WAS TOO LATE. HE WAS DISTRACTED BY A WRONG STATEMENT IN THE FO'S BRIEFING AND TURNED AWAY FROM THE INSTS AT THE WRONG TIME. THE FO WAS NEW TO THE ACFT AND THE ACR, AND THE RPTR HAD NEVER SEEN HIM BEFORE. THE FACT THAT THE FLC HAS TO LEVEL OFF THE ACFT WHILE ON AUTOPLT, RATHER THAN LET THE ACFT DO IT ITSELF AS IN THE SAAB, 'CREEPS INTO THE EQUATION OCCASIONALLY.' THE RPTR HAS NOT HEARD FROM THE FAA ON THIS INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.