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Attributes | |
ACN | 297510 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : psp |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 22500 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 297510 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Pilots were debating about how distracting our new voice checklist is. The debate caused an even bigger distraction which allowed us to deviate from our assigned altitude. Our 1000 ft above or below callout before leveloff was not made because of the debate in process. Neither pilot recognized the altitude deviation until 1500 ft below assigned altitude. Pilots need to debate on the ground not in the air.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN DSCNT.
Narrative: PLTS WERE DEBATING ABOUT HOW DISTRACTING OUR NEW VOICE CHKLIST IS. THE DEBATE CAUSED AN EVEN BIGGER DISTR WHICH ALLOWED US TO DEVIATE FROM OUR ASSIGNED ALT. OUR 1000 FT ABOVE OR BELOW CALLOUT BEFORE LEVELOFF WAS NOT MADE BECAUSE OF THE DEBATE IN PROCESS. NEITHER PLT RECOGNIZED THE ALTDEV UNTIL 1500 FT BELOW ASSIGNED ALT. PLTS NEED TO DEBATE ON THE GND NOT IN THE AIR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.