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Attributes | |
ACN | 298201 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : buf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 298201 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 298385 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Slc tower on 119.05 issued us clearance to cross runway 34 and continue taxi to runway 35 and monitor tower on 118.3 after crossing runway 34. There were airplanes on final to runway 34 the closest of which we judged to be 4.5-5 mi out. Because it was night time with only landing lights visible on the traffic it was impossible to accurately judge distance and closure rate. We were largely dependent on the tower's information. Traffic turned out to be closer and by then committed. I had to hurry to make the crossing. We did get across and clear with no comment from tower on 119.05 which we were still on as instructed or from the traffic but separation was much too close for my comfort. Clearance to cross should not have been given or at least given only with a comment about distance and instruction to expedite. I would have held short if I had received accurate information. Supplemental information from acn 298385: we were holding short in night visual conditions of runway 34 -- awaiting landing traffic. After traffic, given clearance to cross runway 34 with second aircraft on final. It was difficult to determine the distance of the aircraft on final, but appeared to be approximately 4.5 NM via TCASII. As we crossed the runway we determined the aircraft was closer with a high rate of closure. We expedited our crossing and estimate we were clear of runway 34 by 100 ft as aircraft (a B727) crossed the threshold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: XING TFC -- ACR CREW FOUND THAT THEY HAD TO HURRY ACROSS THE RWY AS APCHING ACR IS TOO CLOSE.
Narrative: SLC TWR ON 119.05 ISSUED US CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 34 AND CONTINUE TAXI TO RWY 35 AND MONITOR TWR ON 118.3 AFTER XING RWY 34. THERE WERE AIRPLANES ON FINAL TO RWY 34 THE CLOSEST OF WHICH WE JUDGED TO BE 4.5-5 MI OUT. BECAUSE IT WAS NIGHT TIME WITH ONLY LNDG LIGHTS VISIBLE ON THE TFC IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCURATELY JUDGE DISTANCE AND CLOSURE RATE. WE WERE LARGELY DEPENDENT ON THE TWR'S INFO. TFC TURNED OUT TO BE CLOSER AND BY THEN COMMITTED. I HAD TO HURRY TO MAKE THE XING. WE DID GET ACROSS AND CLR WITH NO COMMENT FROM TWR ON 119.05 WHICH WE WERE STILL ON AS INSTRUCTED OR FROM THE TFC BUT SEPARATION WAS MUCH TOO CLOSE FOR MY COMFORT. CLRNC TO CROSS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GIVEN OR AT LEAST GIVEN ONLY WITH A COMMENT ABOUT DISTANCE AND INSTRUCTION TO EXPEDITE. I WOULD HAVE HELD SHORT IF I HAD RECEIVED ACCURATE INFO. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 298385: WE WERE HOLDING SHORT IN NIGHT VISUAL CONDITIONS OF RWY 34 -- AWAITING LNDG TFC. AFTER TFC, GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 34 WITH SECOND ACFT ON FINAL. IT WAS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THE DISTANCE OF THE ACFT ON FINAL, BUT APPEARED TO BE APPROX 4.5 NM VIA TCASII. AS WE CROSSED THE RWY WE DETERMINED THE ACFT WAS CLOSER WITH A HIGH RATE OF CLOSURE. WE EXPEDITED OUR XING AND ESTIMATE WE WERE CLR OF RWY 34 BY 100 FT AS ACFT (A B727) CROSSED THE THRESHOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.