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Attributes | |
ACN | 299340 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 299340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I noticed just before descent that the captain had the seatbelt sign on, didn't give it any more thought. If off, it is usually turned on at 18000 ft in descent. So gave normal 10 min warning to flight attendants. However, we were #1 for the airport and cleared for a visual when abeam the airport so a short approach was made. After deplaning the passenger, a couple of flight attendants informed us they were not in their seats for landing. They said they were stowing things in the mid-galley and were running to the aft cabin when we touched down. No communication was received from the cabin about their situation, and frankly, I don't recall if a landing announcement to the passenger was made. Lots of crews don't want to interrupt a movie if it is still showing. Forward flight attendant said she was ready because she always puts away equipment when not in use. I think it would be smart if all flight attendants did that. You never know when the cabin must be secured in a hurry. However, many flight attendants are not diligent in this regard. Also, I've noticed that many flight attendants have a very casual attitude about getting in their seats for landing -- often doing it well below 1000 ft AGL. Finally, the flight attendants should have made a call to the cockpit to let us know of their situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT ATTENDANTS NOT SEATED DURING LNDG.
Narrative: I NOTICED JUST BEFORE DSCNT THAT THE CAPT HAD THE SEATBELT SIGN ON, DIDN'T GIVE IT ANY MORE THOUGHT. IF OFF, IT IS USUALLY TURNED ON AT 18000 FT IN DSCNT. SO GAVE NORMAL 10 MIN WARNING TO FLT ATTENDANTS. HOWEVER, WE WERE #1 FOR THE ARPT AND CLRED FOR A VISUAL WHEN ABEAM THE ARPT SO A SHORT APCH WAS MADE. AFTER DEPLANING THE PAX, A COUPLE OF FLT ATTENDANTS INFORMED US THEY WERE NOT IN THEIR SEATS FOR LNDG. THEY SAID THEY WERE STOWING THINGS IN THE MID-GALLEY AND WERE RUNNING TO THE AFT CABIN WHEN WE TOUCHED DOWN. NO COM WAS RECEIVED FROM THE CABIN ABOUT THEIR SIT, AND FRANKLY, I DON'T RECALL IF A LNDG ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PAX WAS MADE. LOTS OF CREWS DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT A MOVIE IF IT IS STILL SHOWING. FORWARD FLT ATTENDANT SAID SHE WAS READY BECAUSE SHE ALWAYS PUTS AWAY EQUIP WHEN NOT IN USE. I THINK IT WOULD BE SMART IF ALL FLT ATTENDANTS DID THAT. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE CABIN MUST BE SECURED IN A HURRY. HOWEVER, MANY FLT ATTENDANTS ARE NOT DILIGENT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO, I'VE NOTICED THAT MANY FLT ATTENDANTS HAVE A VERY CASUAL ATTITUDE ABOUT GETTING IN THEIR SEATS FOR LNDG -- OFTEN DOING IT WELL BELOW 1000 FT AGL. FINALLY, THE FLT ATTENDANTS SHOULD HAVE MADE A CALL TO THE COCKPIT TO LET US KNOW OF THEIR SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.