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Attributes | |
ACN | 303452 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : har |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 303452 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Dulles was down to 1 runway for landing, runway 1L (runway 1R was closed, runway 30 was not usable, WX). Dulles was asking center for 20 mi entrail. We (air carrier flight) were being vectored for the last 20 mins or so by ZNY around williamsport (fqm), selinsgrove (seg) and now closest to harrisburg (har) VOR, when one of our company flts asked center how much longer they could expect in delays because of being vectored around. Center then said to them: I'll tell you what air carrier -- that's it for the vectors, hold south of harrisburg on V162.' he then said 'and if any of the other air carrier flts have a problem or question I will accommodate them as well!' this controller was punishing our company flight when they were probably just trying to plan for fuel purposes, and threatening the rest of us. I wish I had his name. An attitude like this can severely harm pilot/controller communications as well as distract and upset flcs!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC HANDLING.
Narrative: DULLES WAS DOWN TO 1 RWY FOR LNDG, RWY 1L (RWY 1R WAS CLOSED, RWY 30 WAS NOT USABLE, WX). DULLES WAS ASKING CTR FOR 20 MI ENTRAIL. WE (ACR FLT) WERE BEING VECTORED FOR THE LAST 20 MINS OR SO BY ZNY AROUND WILLIAMSPORT (FQM), SELINSGROVE (SEG) AND NOW CLOSEST TO HARRISBURG (HAR) VOR, WHEN ONE OF OUR COMPANY FLTS ASKED CTR HOW MUCH LONGER THEY COULD EXPECT IN DELAYS BECAUSE OF BEING VECTORED AROUND. CTR THEN SAID TO THEM: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT ACR -- THAT'S IT FOR THE VECTORS, HOLD S OF HARRISBURG ON V162.' HE THEN SAID 'AND IF ANY OF THE OTHER ACR FLTS HAVE A PROB OR QUESTION I WILL ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL!' THIS CTLR WAS PUNISHING OUR COMPANY FLT WHEN THEY WERE PROBABLY JUST TRYING TO PLAN FOR FUEL PURPOSES, AND THREATENING THE REST OF US. I WISH I HAD HIS NAME. AN ATTITUDE LIKE THIS CAN SEVERELY HARM PLT/CTLR COMS AS WELL AS DISTRACT AND UPSET FLCS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.