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Attributes | |
ACN | 304050 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cri airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 23000 |
ASRS Report | 304050 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
With captain hand flying, we were cleared for VOR runway 13 approach to jfk. We were level at 3000 ft about 10 mi from the cri VOR on 043 degree radial. Copilot started descent to 1500 ft early and by the time I pointed it out to him and told him to climb back to 3000 ft we descended approximately 300 ft (2700 ft MSL). He somehow was confused about descent point thinking it was 10 mi instead of 6 DME. He knew he needed to be 1500 ft (mandatory altitude). At cri VOR so started fairly rapid descent. The approach was briefed and copilot said he had made the approach many times before but somehow was confused on DME position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT BEFORE DSCNT FIX.
Narrative: WITH CAPT HAND FLYING, WE WERE CLRED FOR VOR RWY 13 APCH TO JFK. WE WERE LEVEL AT 3000 FT ABOUT 10 MI FROM THE CRI VOR ON 043 DEG RADIAL. COPLT STARTED DSCNT TO 1500 FT EARLY AND BY THE TIME I POINTED IT OUT TO HIM AND TOLD HIM TO CLB BACK TO 3000 FT WE DSNDED APPROX 300 FT (2700 FT MSL). HE SOMEHOW WAS CONFUSED ABOUT DSCNT POINT THINKING IT WAS 10 MI INSTEAD OF 6 DME. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE 1500 FT (MANDATORY ALT). AT CRI VOR SO STARTED FAIRLY RAPID DSCNT. THE APCH WAS BRIEFED AND COPLT SAID HE HAD MADE THE APCH MANY TIMES BEFORE BUT SOMEHOW WAS CONFUSED ON DME POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.