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Attributes | |
ACN | 306990 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cmk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5700 msl bound upper : 6300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 1000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 235 |
ASRS Report | 306990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
While acting as first officer and PF on an unscheduled far 135 passenger flight, we were flying at 6000 ft MSL near cmk VOR en route to teb from fok, when we were issued traffic at our 2:30 O'clock and 2 mi at 6300 ft. I spotted the traffic approximately 15 seconds after ATC called it, and it was on approximately 30 degrees converging course and much less than a mi. I immediately entered a 30 degree left descending turn and ATC was informed of the altitude deviation. VFR/IFR traffic mix is a big problem in and around and under the ny class B. We were on an IFR flight plan, and due to our altitude, at 250 KIAS. The other traffic, cheyenne III, was probably at a very compatible airspeed. As statistics show, this is where most mid-air/near midairs occur (converging). In my opinion, the 3 most hazardous places I have encountered while flying IFR, with regard to VFR traffic are in and around and under the lax class B, the ny class B, and the stl class B.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BAE125 HAS LTSS WITH TFC IN N90 AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WHILE ACTING AS FO AND PF ON AN UNSCHEDULED FAR 135 PAX FLT, WE WERE FLYING AT 6000 FT MSL NEAR CMK VOR ENRTE TO TEB FROM FOK, WHEN WE WERE ISSUED TFC AT OUR 2:30 O'CLOCK AND 2 MI AT 6300 FT. I SPOTTED THE TFC APPROX 15 SECONDS AFTER ATC CALLED IT, AND IT WAS ON APPROX 30 DEGS CONVERGING COURSE AND MUCH LESS THAN A MI. I IMMEDIATELY ENTERED A 30 DEG L DSNDING TURN AND ATC WAS INFORMED OF THE ALTDEV. VFR/IFR TFC MIX IS A BIG PROB IN AND AROUND AND UNDER THE NY CLASS B. WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, AND DUE TO OUR ALT, AT 250 KIAS. THE OTHER TFC, CHEYENNE III, WAS PROBABLY AT A VERY COMPATIBLE AIRSPD. AS STATISTICS SHOW, THIS IS WHERE MOST MID-AIR/NEAR MIDAIRS OCCUR (CONVERGING). IN MY OPINION, THE 3 MOST HAZARDOUS PLACES I HAVE ENCOUNTERED WHILE FLYING IFR, WITH REGARD TO VFR TFC ARE IN AND AROUND AND UNDER THE LAX CLASS B, THE NY CLASS B, AND THE STL CLASS B.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.