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Attributes | |
ACN | 307268 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 307268 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 700 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After turning on to final for runway 28R we got a TCASII 'reduce descent' caused by an overtaking bizjet behind us on approach for runway 28L. We had the bizjet in sight on base leg and made our turn to final well inside him. He had requested and received clearance for a long landing from tower. We were in the process of slowing to our stabilized approach speed for landing on the approach end of runway 28R, and apparently the bizjet was later than we were in slowing for landing. He never passed us on final and both planes landed safely. This is the 2ND time, on 2 consecutive days, that we got a TCASII RA on approach into sfo. Both were in excellent VFR WX conditions. Is bay approach reducing arrival separation too much, when visual approachs are in use?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA WITH BIZJET WHILE ON VISUAL APCH TO MULTIPLE RWY OP PARALLEL RWYS.
Narrative: AFTER TURNING ON TO FINAL FOR RWY 28R WE GOT A TCASII 'REDUCE DSCNT' CAUSED BY AN OVERTAKING BIZJET BEHIND US ON APCH FOR RWY 28L. WE HAD THE BIZJET IN SIGHT ON BASE LEG AND MADE OUR TURN TO FINAL WELL INSIDE HIM. HE HAD REQUESTED AND RECEIVED CLRNC FOR A LONG LNDG FROM TWR. WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF SLOWING TO OUR STABILIZED APCH SPD FOR LNDG ON THE APCH END OF RWY 28R, AND APPARENTLY THE BIZJET WAS LATER THAN WE WERE IN SLOWING FOR LNDG. HE NEVER PASSED US ON FINAL AND BOTH PLANES LANDED SAFELY. THIS IS THE 2ND TIME, ON 2 CONSECUTIVE DAYS, THAT WE GOT A TCASII RA ON APCH INTO SFO. BOTH WERE IN EXCELLENT VFR WX CONDITIONS. IS BAY APCH REDUCING ARR SEPARATION TOO MUCH, WHEN VISUAL APCHS ARE IN USE?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.