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Attributes | |
ACN | 308180 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 10700 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 308180 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
There are 3 ground control frequencys depicted for dtw with markings on the communication chart page indicating which frequency is to be used at different airport locations. We turned off the active runway 3L onto runway 27 and were told by tower to contact ground. We tried the indicated frequency, no luck. After several attempts, we switched to another listed frequency and got our taxi clearance. We were out of contact with ATC for about 2 mins, just clear of an active runway, parked on another runway. It seems that dtw should use the ground control frequencys in a more logical fashion. Confusion about who to call and when can lead to runway incursions and degradation of safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG LOST MOMENTARY COM WITH TWR AFTER LNDG DUE TO USING THE WRONG GND FREQ.
Narrative: THERE ARE 3 GND CTL FREQS DEPICTED FOR DTW WITH MARKINGS ON THE COM CHART PAGE INDICATING WHICH FREQ IS TO BE USED AT DIFFERENT ARPT LOCATIONS. WE TURNED OFF THE ACTIVE RWY 3L ONTO RWY 27 AND WERE TOLD BY TWR TO CONTACT GND. WE TRIED THE INDICATED FREQ, NO LUCK. AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS, WE SWITCHED TO ANOTHER LISTED FREQ AND GOT OUR TAXI CLRNC. WE WERE OUT OF CONTACT WITH ATC FOR ABOUT 2 MINS, JUST CLR OF AN ACTIVE RWY, PARKED ON ANOTHER RWY. IT SEEMS THAT DTW SHOULD USE THE GND CTL FREQS IN A MORE LOGICAL FASHION. CONFUSION ABOUT WHO TO CALL AND WHEN CAN LEAD TO RWY INCURSIONS AND DEGRADATION OF SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.