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Attributes | |
ACN | 309260 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ipt |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 309260 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 309131 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on the ramp and called ground control for clearance to taxi. We were told to taxi to runway 27. Conditions were partly cloudy, visibility better than 3 mi and dry surface conditions. The captain proceeded to taxi to runway 27 as directed. The distance from where we were parked to the beginning of the runway is not very far. The captain was proceeding to runway at a relatively fast speed. Faster than most other capts I have flown with. She called for the taxi checklist as we began to roll. I attempted to complete the checklist so we would not have to wait at the end of the runway and delay our departure. As we taxied my eyes were focused inside the aircraft for the greatest percentage of the time conducting the taxi checklist. After I had completed the checklist, I looked out of the aircraft to determine where we were so I could contact tower at the proper time. Just as I realized we were already past the hold short line by 30 ft (approximately) the captain applied the brakes and stopped the aircraft. A second after she stopped, the ground controller, who was monitoring tower frequency also, ordered us to stop and he informed us that we were past the hold short line. A piper tomahawk was on short final and landed without incident. We had stopped far enough from the runway which still enabled him to have plenty of room without being crowded on landing. The captain had stated that she thought the hold short line was closer to the runway. It looked as though a hold short line was there at one time but was painted over black. This situation could have been avoided if the captain would have slowed the taxi speed down so she would have been able to see the taxiway signs and markings better. Also, if she would have relied on what the current taxiway markings were instead of relying on past experience. As for myself, if I would have taken my time with the taxi checklist. I could have devoted more time for looking outside, which would have possibly enabled me to better assist the captain. Supplemental information from acn 309131: I just thought the hold short lines were further down the taxiway. This is where I came to a stop instead of the first set of hold short lines, which I initially believed to be for ILS approachs. But after further examination, there are no separate hold short lines for IFR or VFR approachs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER BE-1900 CROSSES OVER HOLD SHORT LINE DURING TAXI FOR TKOF.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE RAMP AND CALLED GND CTL FOR CLRNC TO TAXI. WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 27. CONDITIONS WERE PARTLY CLOUDY, VISIBILITY BETTER THAN 3 MI AND DRY SURFACE CONDITIONS. THE CAPT PROCEEDED TO TAXI TO RWY 27 AS DIRECTED. THE DISTANCE FROM WHERE WE WERE PARKED TO THE BEGINNING OF THE RWY IS NOT VERY FAR. THE CAPT WAS PROCEEDING TO RWY AT A RELATIVELY FAST SPD. FASTER THAN MOST OTHER CAPTS I HAVE FLOWN WITH. SHE CALLED FOR THE TAXI CHKLIST AS WE BEGAN TO ROLL. I ATTEMPTED TO COMPLETE THE CHKLIST SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT AT THE END OF THE RWY AND DELAY OUR DEP. AS WE TAXIED MY EYES WERE FOCUSED INSIDE THE ACFT FOR THE GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME CONDUCTING THE TAXI CHKLIST. AFTER I HAD COMPLETED THE CHKLIST, I LOOKED OUT OF THE ACFT TO DETERMINE WHERE WE WERE SO I COULD CONTACT TWR AT THE PROPER TIME. JUST AS I REALIZED WE WERE ALREADY PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE BY 30 FT (APPROX) THE CAPT APPLIED THE BRAKES AND STOPPED THE ACFT. A SECOND AFTER SHE STOPPED, THE GND CTLR, WHO WAS MONITORING TWR FREQ ALSO, ORDERED US TO STOP AND HE INFORMED US THAT WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. A PIPER TOMAHAWK WAS ON SHORT FINAL AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. WE HAD STOPPED FAR ENOUGH FROM THE RWY WHICH STILL ENABLED HIM TO HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM WITHOUT BEING CROWDED ON LNDG. THE CAPT HAD STATED THAT SHE THOUGHT THE HOLD SHORT LINE WAS CLOSER TO THE RWY. IT LOOKED AS THOUGH A HOLD SHORT LINE WAS THERE AT ONE TIME BUT WAS PAINTED OVER BLACK. THIS SIT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CAPT WOULD HAVE SLOWED THE TAXI SPD DOWN SO SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE TXWY SIGNS AND MARKINGS BETTER. ALSO, IF SHE WOULD HAVE RELIED ON WHAT THE CURRENT TXWY MARKINGS WERE INSTEAD OF RELYING ON PAST EXPERIENCE. AS FOR MYSELF, IF I WOULD HAVE TAKEN MY TIME WITH THE TAXI CHKLIST. I COULD HAVE DEVOTED MORE TIME FOR LOOKING OUTSIDE, WHICH WOULD HAVE POSSIBLY ENABLED ME TO BETTER ASSIST THE CAPT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 309131: I JUST THOUGHT THE HOLD SHORT LINES WERE FURTHER DOWN THE TXWY. THIS IS WHERE I CAME TO A STOP INSTEAD OF THE FIRST SET OF HOLD SHORT LINES, WHICH I INITIALLY BELIEVED TO BE FOR ILS APCHS. BUT AFTER FURTHER EXAMINATION, THERE ARE NO SEPARATE HOLD SHORT LINES FOR IFR OR VFR APCHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.