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Attributes | |
ACN | 312093 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hpn |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : hpn tower : hpn |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 312093 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 311975 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight was waiting to be cleared for takeoff. 2 GA aircraft departed before us. Tower then cleared us to takeoff. We complied with the SID and turned to a heading of 295 degrees. We contacted departure and were asked if we were aware of traffic at about 1 O'clock at the same altitude. As we looked for the aircraft, we got a TA from our TCASII, followed by an RA which told us to climb at 2500 FPM. We complied. We then notified departure and asked why we were not told about the traffic sooner. Departure said that tower should have told us. They did not. Supplemental information from acn 311975: SID was flown as depicted. The light, low-fixed wing single engine aircraft passed directly under us at 500 ft. Ny departure informed me that this is a common problem at hpn. Phone conversation between myself and the hpn tower revealed that there was controller training in progress and they did fail to issue traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: FLT WAS WAITING TO BE CLRED FOR TKOF. 2 GA ACFT DEPARTED BEFORE US. TWR THEN CLRED US TO TKOF. WE COMPLIED WITH THE SID AND TURNED TO A HDG OF 295 DEGS. WE CONTACTED DEP AND WERE ASKED IF WE WERE AWARE OF TFC AT ABOUT 1 O'CLOCK AT THE SAME ALT. AS WE LOOKED FOR THE ACFT, WE GOT A TA FROM OUR TCASII, FOLLOWED BY AN RA WHICH TOLD US TO CLB AT 2500 FPM. WE COMPLIED. WE THEN NOTIFIED DEP AND ASKED WHY WE WERE NOT TOLD ABOUT THE TFC SOONER. DEP SAID THAT TWR SHOULD HAVE TOLD US. THEY DID NOT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 311975: SID WAS FLOWN AS DEPICTED. THE LIGHT, LOW-FIXED WING SINGLE ENG ACFT PASSED DIRECTLY UNDER US AT 500 FT. NY DEP INFORMED ME THAT THIS IS A COMMON PROB AT HPN. PHONE CONVERSATION BTWN MYSELF AND THE HPN TWR REVEALED THAT THERE WAS CTLR TRAINING IN PROGRESS AND THEY DID FAIL TO ISSUE TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.