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Attributes | |
ACN | 314579 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 314579 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I was flying. We had been told to maintain 210 KTS and a visual approach to runway 28R. On downwind leg abeam the approach end and 1 mi north of runway 28R, I slowed to 170 KTS. The controller said 'fly heading 140 degree, maintain 3000 ft, expect visual approach to runway 14.' established on the new heading the controller said 'what's your airspeed?' the captain said '170 KTS, we were expecting runway 28R.' the controller said 'it doesn't matter, I assigned you 210 KTS.' I accelerated to 210 KTS. The approach controllers move a lot of traffic into pit in a short time, but they frequently make unreasonable requests requiring either an unstable approach or a go around. Unstable approachs and gars scare the passenger so we try to avoid them, which is what I was doing, expecting a short approach to runway 28R. As far as we know there was no traffic conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DEVS FROM ASSIGNED SPD.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING. WE HAD BEEN TOLD TO MAINTAIN 210 KTS AND A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 28R. ON DOWNWIND LEG ABEAM THE APCH END AND 1 MI N OF RWY 28R, I SLOWED TO 170 KTS. THE CTLR SAID 'FLY HDG 140 DEG, MAINTAIN 3000 FT, EXPECT VISUAL APCH TO RWY 14.' ESTABLISHED ON THE NEW HDG THE CTLR SAID 'WHAT'S YOUR AIRSPD?' THE CAPT SAID '170 KTS, WE WERE EXPECTING RWY 28R.' THE CTLR SAID 'IT DOESN'T MATTER, I ASSIGNED YOU 210 KTS.' I ACCELERATED TO 210 KTS. THE APCH CTLRS MOVE A LOT OF TFC INTO PIT IN A SHORT TIME, BUT THEY FREQUENTLY MAKE UNREASONABLE REQUESTS REQUIRING EITHER AN UNSTABLE APCH OR A GAR. UNSTABLE APCHS AND GARS SCARE THE PAX SO WE TRY TO AVOID THEM, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS DOING, EXPECTING A SHORT APCH TO RWY 28R. AS FAR AS WE KNOW THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.