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Attributes | |
ACN | 315150 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fgt |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp artcc : zab |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7720 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 315150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were the crew for flight from mci to msp. When we began our descent we were told to expect pepper at 9000 ft MSL. While on the profile descent we were told to slow to 250 KTS and cross pepper at 9000 ft. I told my captain we would have to use the speed brakes to make it. He refused and said he had an 'axe to grind with ATC' so we did not make the restr. Several radio calls were required to coordinate our problem. Even CRM can't help an event when the captain refuses to help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG MISSES XING RESTR.
Narrative: WE WERE THE CREW FOR FLT FROM MCI TO MSP. WHEN WE BEGAN OUR DSCNT WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT PEPPER AT 9000 FT MSL. WHILE ON THE PROFILE DSCNT WE WERE TOLD TO SLOW TO 250 KTS AND CROSS PEPPER AT 9000 FT. I TOLD MY CAPT WE WOULD HAVE TO USE THE SPD BRAKES TO MAKE IT. HE REFUSED AND SAID HE HAD AN 'AXE TO GRIND WITH ATC' SO WE DID NOT MAKE THE RESTR. SEVERAL RADIO CALLS WERE REQUIRED TO COORDINATE OUR PROB. EVEN CRM CAN'T HELP AN EVENT WHEN THE CAPT REFUSES TO HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.