Narrative:

On sep/sun/95 at approximately XA00 hours local, while flying in an easterly direction at 6500 ft approximately 6-8 mi east of lake elsinore, my passenger and I observed a turbine pwred twin on a collision course, at our altitude, approximately 20 degrees relative to our course. We took evasive action, turning hard 30 degrees right. He passed approximately 200 ft in front of our easterly course. He then circled, came up approximately 150 ft to our left and parallel to our now easterly altitude and course. He then dropped down under us, came up on our right, slightly behind, approximately 150 ft away and approximately 30 degrees higher. I tried to talk to him air to air. He didn't respond, made a right steep (very) descending turn back towards the west. During his time on our right (south) side we observed that this turbine twin had no door, is probably a jump plane. Except for our 30 degree course change and back east, we maintained our altitude and easterly direction. We were so surprised by these maneuvers, we neglected to record his 'north' number. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he was flying a cessna 182. The turbo propeller he believes was a twin otter. The reporter said he did not normally check NOTAMS and was not aware of the 1- 800-WX brief but he sure will check NOTAMS from now on. As an aside, from local experience in the southern california area, the idea of taking off without calling for briefing is not unusual. The reporter stated many pilots in the area will use as a matter of custom the south side of highway 15 to go VFR sbound to oceanside, palomar, and san diego, and the north side of the highway coming northbound. The inland route is better than going along the coast for a variety of reasons. They don't pay all that much attention to appropriate altitudes as in this case the reporter was sebound at 6500 ft. Also, they don't pay much mind to parachute areas on sunday afternoons either. This reporter sure did notice the twin turbine when it gave him a buzz job. Time elapsed long enough for the reporter to attempt contact with the otter on 121.95, 122.90, 123.45, and 122.8. The reporter never was able to talk to the otter. The area around elsinore is also a way for pilots to get around the south side of the march class C airspace and the north side of camp pendleton on the way towards san diego (the 2ND largest city in ca). Also, many pilots from the basin airports will come by elsinore on their way to french valley which is a particularly attractive airport for landing practice.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: THE RPTR IS BUZZED BY A TWIN TURBO PROP OTTER PARACHUTE JUMP PLANE.

Narrative: ON SEP/SUN/95 AT APPROX XA00 HRS LCL, WHILE FLYING IN AN EASTERLY DIRECTION AT 6500 FT APPROX 6-8 MI E OF LAKE ELSINORE, MY PAX AND I OBSERVED A TURBINE PWRED TWIN ON A COLLISION COURSE, AT OUR ALT, APPROX 20 DEGS RELATIVE TO OUR COURSE. WE TOOK EVASIVE ACTION, TURNING HARD 30 DEGS R. HE PASSED APPROX 200 FT IN FRONT OF OUR EASTERLY COURSE. HE THEN CIRCLED, CAME UP APPROX 150 FT TO OUR L AND PARALLEL TO OUR NOW EASTERLY ALT AND COURSE. HE THEN DROPPED DOWN UNDER US, CAME UP ON OUR R, SLIGHTLY BEHIND, APPROX 150 FT AWAY AND APPROX 30 DEGS HIGHER. I TRIED TO TALK TO HIM AIR TO AIR. HE DIDN'T RESPOND, MADE A R STEEP (VERY) DSNDING TURN BACK TOWARDS THE W. DURING HIS TIME ON OUR R (S) SIDE WE OBSERVED THAT THIS TURBINE TWIN HAD NO DOOR, IS PROBABLY A JUMP PLANE. EXCEPT FOR OUR 30 DEG COURSE CHANGE AND BACK E, WE MAINTAINED OUR ALT AND EASTERLY DIRECTION. WE WERE SO SURPRISED BY THESE MANEUVERS, WE NEGLECTED TO RECORD HIS 'N' NUMBER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE WAS FLYING A CESSNA 182. THE TURBO PROP HE BELIEVES WAS A TWIN OTTER. THE RPTR SAID HE DID NOT NORMALLY CHK NOTAMS AND WAS NOT AWARE OF THE 1- 800-WX BRIEF BUT HE SURE WILL CHK NOTAMS FROM NOW ON. AS AN ASIDE, FROM LCL EXPERIENCE IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA, THE IDEA OF TAKING OFF WITHOUT CALLING FOR BRIEFING IS NOT UNUSUAL. THE RPTR STATED MANY PLTS IN THE AREA WILL USE AS A MATTER OF CUSTOM THE S SIDE OF HWY 15 TO GO VFR SBOUND TO OCEANSIDE, PALOMAR, AND SAN DIEGO, AND THE N SIDE OF THE HWY COMING NBOUND. THE INLAND RTE IS BETTER THAN GOING ALONG THE COAST FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. THEY DON'T PAY ALL THAT MUCH ATTN TO APPROPRIATE ALTS AS IN THIS CASE THE RPTR WAS SEBOUND AT 6500 FT. ALSO, THEY DON'T PAY MUCH MIND TO PARACHUTE AREAS ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS EITHER. THIS RPTR SURE DID NOTICE THE TWIN TURBINE WHEN IT GAVE HIM A BUZZ JOB. TIME ELAPSED LONG ENOUGH FOR THE RPTR TO ATTEMPT CONTACT WITH THE OTTER ON 121.95, 122.90, 123.45, AND 122.8. THE RPTR NEVER WAS ABLE TO TALK TO THE OTTER. THE AREA AROUND ELSINORE IS ALSO A WAY FOR PLTS TO GET AROUND THE S SIDE OF THE MARCH CLASS C AIRSPACE AND THE N SIDE OF CAMP PENDLETON ON THE WAY TOWARDS SAN DIEGO (THE 2ND LARGEST CITY IN CA). ALSO, MANY PLTS FROM THE BASIN ARPTS WILL COME BY ELSINORE ON THEIR WAY TO FRENCH VALLEY WHICH IS A PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE ARPT FOR LNDG PRACTICE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.