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Attributes | |
ACN | 316175 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pxn |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 10300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beechjet 400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Citation I |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 96 flight time total : 13182 flight time type : 385 |
ASRS Report | 316175 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence other other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The controller called traffic, giving distance, altitude and direction. We didn't see traffic. It would be hard to see as it was at a similar altitude and direction. The controller asked if we had the traffic. We didn't. The controller gave a left heading change of about 50 degrees and an altitude change from 10000 ft to 8000 ft MSL. There was a sense of urgency. Normally I would have hand flown the airplane, except the PNF (chief pilot) has a tantrum anytime a maneuver could be considered abrupt. There is no consideration as to why, such as wake turbulence avoidance, complying with ATC, or collision avoidance. The PNF took the airplane, turning left and staring down. There was no verbal communication. The nose was pushed down abruptly enough so that the passenger noticed. At about 8500 ft I noticed the aircraft's nose pitching up with a climb to, I believe, 10300 ft. The other pilot started yelling for 'trim,' saying he couldn't reach the trim button, while pushing forward on the wheel. As the airspeed decreased he regained control. At this point I was given the airplane without verbal communication. He ran out of elevator control because the aircraft was out of trim or trimmed improperly. I did notice the trim was closer to the green takeoff marking than the full nose down trim red mark. The other pilot did see the other aircraft pass to our right after we had climbed back to our original altitude. Why did this happen? The chief pilot didn't maintain control of the aircraft. Second, the chief pilot is a poor leader and has an unstable personality. He discourages input with his temper and jumping to conclusions. His poor self image is compensated for by excessive assertiveness. The net result is I am not assertive enough while balancing safety and job security. The next morning the chief pilot apologized for over reacting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP ACFT GIVEN HDG AND ALT CHANGE FOR SEPARATION HAS LOSS OF ACFT CTL.
Narrative: THE CTLR CALLED TFC, GIVING DISTANCE, ALT AND DIRECTION. WE DIDN'T SEE TFC. IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEE AS IT WAS AT A SIMILAR ALT AND DIRECTION. THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD THE TFC. WE DIDN'T. THE CTLR GAVE A L HDG CHANGE OF ABOUT 50 DEGS AND AN ALT CHANGE FROM 10000 FT TO 8000 FT MSL. THERE WAS A SENSE OF URGENCY. NORMALLY I WOULD HAVE HAND FLOWN THE AIRPLANE, EXCEPT THE PNF (CHIEF PLT) HAS A TANTRUM ANYTIME A MANEUVER COULD BE CONSIDERED ABRUPT. THERE IS NO CONSIDERATION AS TO WHY, SUCH AS WAKE TURB AVOIDANCE, COMPLYING WITH ATC, OR COLLISION AVOIDANCE. THE PNF TOOK THE AIRPLANE, TURNING L AND STARING DOWN. THERE WAS NO VERBAL COM. THE NOSE WAS PUSHED DOWN ABRUPTLY ENOUGH SO THAT THE PAX NOTICED. AT ABOUT 8500 FT I NOTICED THE ACFT'S NOSE PITCHING UP WITH A CLB TO, I BELIEVE, 10300 FT. THE OTHER PLT STARTED YELLING FOR 'TRIM,' SAYING HE COULDN'T REACH THE TRIM BUTTON, WHILE PUSHING FORWARD ON THE WHEEL. AS THE AIRSPD DECREASED HE REGAINED CTL. AT THIS POINT I WAS GIVEN THE AIRPLANE WITHOUT VERBAL COM. HE RAN OUT OF ELEVATOR CTL BECAUSE THE ACFT WAS OUT OF TRIM OR TRIMMED IMPROPERLY. I DID NOTICE THE TRIM WAS CLOSER TO THE GREEN TKOF MARKING THAN THE FULL NOSE DOWN TRIM RED MARK. THE OTHER PLT DID SEE THE OTHER ACFT PASS TO OUR R AFTER WE HAD CLBED BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL ALT. WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? THE CHIEF PLT DIDN'T MAINTAIN CTL OF THE ACFT. SECOND, THE CHIEF PLT IS A POOR LEADER AND HAS AN UNSTABLE PERSONALITY. HE DISCOURAGES INPUT WITH HIS TEMPER AND JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS. HIS POOR SELF IMAGE IS COMPENSATED FOR BY EXCESSIVE ASSERTIVENESS. THE NET RESULT IS I AM NOT ASSERTIVE ENOUGH WHILE BALANCING SAFETY AND JOB SECURITY. THE NEXT MORNING THE CHIEF PLT APOLOGIZED FOR OVER REACTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.