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Attributes | |
ACN | 316692 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ctr |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 17700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw artcc : vhhk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 316692 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing out of about 11000 ft. I went off radio to talk to bdl station at their request. After I went off frequency, ATC gave us a short cut direct albany VOR. Also about that time they issued VFR traffic at 17500 ft. Right after this, flight attendant came up with crew meal. A lot going on at one time so copilot did not recognize that VFR traffic could possibly be a conflict. When I came back on radio frequency we received a TA. We were climbing out of about 16000 ft. Traffic was at edge of TCASII scope and did not show altitude. Soon after we could see traffic on our scope at about 17500 ft. We immediately received an RA to descend. We complied and stopped our climb and began a descent at about 17700 ft. Because of our descent there was no conflict, and the vertical separation was at least 1500 ft. We never spotted the traffic visually. The only recommendation I would make to prevent this type of occurrence from happening again would be to have ATC, when they issue traffic that they think could be a conflict, to try to make sure the crew realizes this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG STOPPED CLBING AND DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF ABOUT 11000 FT. I WENT OFF RADIO TO TALK TO BDL STATION AT THEIR REQUEST. AFTER I WENT OFF FREQ, ATC GAVE US A SHORT CUT DIRECT ALBANY VOR. ALSO ABOUT THAT TIME THEY ISSUED VFR TFC AT 17500 FT. RIGHT AFTER THIS, FLT ATTENDANT CAME UP WITH CREW MEAL. A LOT GOING ON AT ONE TIME SO COPLT DID NOT RECOGNIZE THAT VFR TFC COULD POSSIBLY BE A CONFLICT. WHEN I CAME BACK ON RADIO FREQ WE RECEIVED A TA. WE WERE CLBING OUT OF ABOUT 16000 FT. TFC WAS AT EDGE OF TCASII SCOPE AND DID NOT SHOW ALT. SOON AFTER WE COULD SEE TFC ON OUR SCOPE AT ABOUT 17500 FT. WE IMMEDIATELY RECEIVED AN RA TO DSND. WE COMPLIED AND STOPPED OUR CLB AND BEGAN A DSCNT AT ABOUT 17700 FT. BECAUSE OF OUR DSCNT THERE WAS NO CONFLICT, AND THE VERT SEPARATION WAS AT LEAST 1500 FT. WE NEVER SPOTTED THE TFC VISUALLY. THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE TO PREVENT THIS TYPE OF OCCURRENCE FROM HAPPENING AGAIN WOULD BE TO HAVE ATC, WHEN THEY ISSUE TFC THAT THEY THINK COULD BE A CONFLICT, TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE CREW REALIZES THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.