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Attributes | |
ACN | 318510 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 318510 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 275 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 5200 |
ASRS Report | 318669 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Back taxi down runway 18L when cleared to cross runway 18L by the controller. He told us we were supposed to cross it and then taxi to the end. We then came back to the intersection where we were cleared to cross and exited the runway. Then we used taxiway to go to the end as first intended by the controller. The end result was that no one was hurt over our miscom with ATC. The corrective action is to ask for progressive taxi instructions the next time we are in this situation. Supplemental information from acn 318669: we were cleared to taxi to runway 18L for intersection departure. We advised ground control that we needed the full length (back taxi). Ground control then issued clearance to taxi to runway 18L via taxiway D, cross runway 23 and hold short of runway 18L at taxiway M. Upon reaching taxiway M, ground control cleared us to cross runway 18L and then taxi to runway 18L. This confused us, since ground control did not issue any instructions how to get to runway 18L, and since we could not see anymore txwys leading to the approach end of runway 18L, and had previously requested a back taxi, we proceeded to back taxi down runway 18L a short distance to the end instead of just crossing runway 18L. When the ground controller stated that he wanted us to cross runway 18L only, we quickly vacated the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: BACK TAXI DOWN RWY 18L WHEN CLRED TO CROSS RWY 18L BY THE CTLR. HE TOLD US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CROSS IT AND THEN TAXI TO THE END. WE THEN CAME BACK TO THE INTXN WHERE WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS AND EXITED THE RWY. THEN WE USED TXWY TO GO TO THE END AS FIRST INTENDED BY THE CTLR. THE END RESULT WAS THAT NO ONE WAS HURT OVER OUR MISCOM WITH ATC. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO ASK FOR PROGRESSIVE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS THE NEXT TIME WE ARE IN THIS SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 318669: WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 18L FOR INTXN DEP. WE ADVISED GND CTL THAT WE NEEDED THE FULL LENGTH (BACK TAXI). GND CTL THEN ISSUED CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 18L VIA TXWY D, CROSS RWY 23 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 18L AT TXWY M. UPON REACHING TXWY M, GND CTL CLRED US TO CROSS RWY 18L AND THEN TAXI TO RWY 18L. THIS CONFUSED US, SINCE GND CTL DID NOT ISSUE ANY INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO GET TO RWY 18L, AND SINCE WE COULD NOT SEE ANYMORE TXWYS LEADING TO THE APCH END OF RWY 18L, AND HAD PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED A BACK TAXI, WE PROCEEDED TO BACK TAXI DOWN RWY 18L A SHORT DISTANCE TO THE END INSTEAD OF JUST XING RWY 18L. WHEN THE GND CTLR STATED THAT HE WANTED US TO CROSS RWY 18L ONLY, WE QUICKLY VACATED THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.