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Attributes | |
ACN | 328833 |
Time | |
Date | 199602 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hou |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 328833 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Iah is a station that we, a commuter airline, share with our major airline flts. The major airline's employees work our flts, including ramp agents. Our cargo weights load manifest, given to me by ramp agent, showed: cargo area 1 - 231 pounds, area 2 - 282 pounds (area 1 and 2 are behind cockpit, forward index), area 3 - 353 pounds, area 4 - 30 pounds (area 3 and 4 are in tail section of aircraft, aft index). First officer calculated our weight and balance for our flight with 64 passenger on board (all seats full). I calculated center of gravity for our flight. We were in our forward caution zone for center of gravity, but legal. During takeoff roll it was very difficult to rotate aircraft. I used a lot of nose up trim after lift off. We had dfw ramp check our cargo weights after landing. (I added 10 KTS to landing speed to keep full effectiveness of elevator, also 5 units of nose up trim compared to 3 1/2 for normal landing.) we found: area 1 - 197 pounds, area 2 - 611 pounds, area 3 - 400 pounds, area 4 - 20 pounds. Area 2 had 6 large boxes in it. It took 2 rampers to unload each box, suggesting they were heavier even than dfw ramp counted them as 2 bag weights (45 pounds) per box. I estimate cargo 2 to have 850 pounds in it. We were out of forward center of gravity, even with just 611 pounds in area 2 -- dangerous.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC REALIZES ON TKOF THAT THE ACFT IS LOADED IMPROPERLY. AFTER LNDG THEY DETERMINE THAT THE ACFT WAS OUT OF FORWARD CTR OF GRAVITY LIMITS. THE ACFT MAY HAVE BEEN OVER GROSS WT ALSO.
Narrative: IAH IS A STATION THAT WE, A COMMUTER AIRLINE, SHARE WITH OUR MAJOR AIRLINE FLTS. THE MAJOR AIRLINE'S EMPLOYEES WORK OUR FLTS, INCLUDING RAMP AGENTS. OUR CARGO WEIGHTS LOAD MANIFEST, GIVEN TO ME BY RAMP AGENT, SHOWED: CARGO AREA 1 - 231 LBS, AREA 2 - 282 LBS (AREA 1 AND 2 ARE BEHIND COCKPIT, FORWARD INDEX), AREA 3 - 353 LBS, AREA 4 - 30 LBS (AREA 3 AND 4 ARE IN TAIL SECTION OF ACFT, AFT INDEX). FO CALCULATED OUR WT AND BAL FOR OUR FLT WITH 64 PAX ON BOARD (ALL SEATS FULL). I CALCULATED CTR OF GRAVITY FOR OUR FLT. WE WERE IN OUR FORWARD CAUTION ZONE FOR CTR OF GRAVITY, BUT LEGAL. DURING TKOF ROLL IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO ROTATE ACFT. I USED A LOT OF NOSE UP TRIM AFTER LIFT OFF. WE HAD DFW RAMP CHK OUR CARGO WTS AFTER LNDG. (I ADDED 10 KTS TO LNDG SPD TO KEEP FULL EFFECTIVENESS OF ELEVATOR, ALSO 5 UNITS OF NOSE UP TRIM COMPARED TO 3 1/2 FOR NORMAL LNDG.) WE FOUND: AREA 1 - 197 LBS, AREA 2 - 611 LBS, AREA 3 - 400 LBS, AREA 4 - 20 LBS. AREA 2 HAD 6 LARGE BOXES IN IT. IT TOOK 2 RAMPERS TO UNLOAD EACH BOX, SUGGESTING THEY WERE HEAVIER EVEN THAN DFW RAMP COUNTED THEM AS 2 BAG WTS (45 LBS) PER BOX. I ESTIMATE CARGO 2 TO HAVE 850 LBS IN IT. WE WERE OUT OF FORWARD CTR OF GRAVITY, EVEN WITH JUST 611 LBS IN AREA 2 -- DANGEROUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.