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Attributes | |
ACN | 331354 |
Time | |
Date | 199603 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ash |
State Reference | NH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 600 |
ASRS Report | 331354 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was instructing a student on stalls and proceeded to introduce spin training. Recently the validity of teaching a student pilot (without parachutes) spins has come to light in the northeast FSDO region. Having graduated from xx college, which has an aerobatic program, I realize the importance of making students aware of spins. Under 91.307 it indicates that the use of parachutes does not apply to 'spins....required by the regulations for any certificate or rating by a CFI.' in the northeast FSDO region, apparently this is interpreted as only regarding those being trained for their CFI's. If spins are taught to anyone else, a parachute must be worn. Having called AOPA, they indicate that 'any certificate or rating' also includes students, private pilots, and commercial applicants. This regulation should be better clarified because I find this type of training very valuable. My students also find it beneficial as it gives them more confidence in stalls and how to recover if they inadvertently find themselves spinning. A precedent has been made here in the northeast where a CFI received a 'suspension pending violation' notification. This type of training is valuable and, I believe, necessary, and should not be resisted as it is perceived here in the region of the portland, me, FSDO.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT CONDUCTED SPIN PRACTICE WITHOUT HE OR HIS STUDENT WEARING REQUIRED PARACHUTES.
Narrative: I WAS INSTRUCTING A STUDENT ON STALLS AND PROCEEDED TO INTRODUCE SPIN TRAINING. RECENTLY THE VALIDITY OF TEACHING A STUDENT PLT (WITHOUT PARACHUTES) SPINS HAS COME TO LIGHT IN THE NE FSDO REGION. HAVING GRADUATED FROM XX COLLEGE, WHICH HAS AN AEROBATIC PROGRAM, I REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING STUDENTS AWARE OF SPINS. UNDER 91.307 IT INDICATES THAT THE USE OF PARACHUTES DOES NOT APPLY TO 'SPINS....REQUIRED BY THE REGS FOR ANY CERTIFICATE OR RATING BY A CFI.' IN THE NE FSDO REGION, APPARENTLY THIS IS INTERPRETED AS ONLY REGARDING THOSE BEING TRAINED FOR THEIR CFI'S. IF SPINS ARE TAUGHT TO ANYONE ELSE, A PARACHUTE MUST BE WORN. HAVING CALLED AOPA, THEY INDICATE THAT 'ANY CERTIFICATE OR RATING' ALSO INCLUDES STUDENTS, PVT PLTS, AND COMMERCIAL APPLICANTS. THIS REG SHOULD BE BETTER CLARIFIED BECAUSE I FIND THIS TYPE OF TRAINING VERY VALUABLE. MY STUDENTS ALSO FIND IT BENEFICIAL AS IT GIVES THEM MORE CONFIDENCE IN STALLS AND HOW TO RECOVER IF THEY INADVERTENTLY FIND THEMSELVES SPINNING. A PRECEDENT HAS BEEN MADE HERE IN THE NE WHERE A CFI RECEIVED A 'SUSPENSION PENDING VIOLATION' NOTIFICATION. THIS TYPE OF TRAINING IS VALUABLE AND, I BELIEVE, NECESSARY, AND SHOULD NOT BE RESISTED AS IT IS PERCEIVED HERE IN THE REGION OF THE PORTLAND, ME, FSDO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.