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Attributes | |
ACN | 334567 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 334567 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
#1 for takeoff. Air carrier X with lax control time cleared into position at intersection. We were told to maintain visual, taxi into position behind X, approximately 1000 ft. Taxied slow into position to let X depart, and saw air carrier Y DC8 on final for runway 8R. If X had been cleared to go there would not have been a problem. Tower delayed takeoff clearance. Tower asked Y for speed and he said 160 KTS as we sat on runway. Finally cleared for takeoff and tower stated this isn't going to work air carrier Z, taxi up to intersection and turn off runway to right. I had power up for anticipated takeoff and moved quickly to intersection and slowed for 90 degree right turn. As I cleared my tail from runway, I heard my first officer exclaim that was close and saw the air carrier Y DC8 tail go by out the eyebrow window. He was asking, and just getting clearance to land at about 50-75 ft. I am sure that anyone watching would consider this a near miss. Numerous passenger and 2 crew members in the cabin, an air carrier a and air carrier B, commented on the closeness. 3 aircraft were in line for takeoff, air carrier Z was one, and they got a good view. This situation should not have gotten this far.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC. WITH ONE ACFT WAITING TKOF CLRNC AT AN INTXN, RPTR ACFT WAS CLRED ONTO THE RWY BEHIND THE OTHER ACR. BY THE TIME THE LEAD ACFT WAS CLRED FOR TKOF, THERE WAS ANOTHER ACR ACFT ON FINAL APCH, SO TWR HAD TO CLR RPTR ACFT OFF RWY. JUST AS RPTR CLRED THE RWY, THE OTHER ACFT LANDED BEHIND RPTR AND CAME VERY CLOSE TO RPTR ACFT TAIL, JUST CLRING THE RWY.
Narrative: #1 FOR TKOF. ACR X WITH LAX CTL TIME CLRED INTO POS AT INTXN. WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL, TAXI INTO POS BEHIND X, APPROX 1000 FT. TAXIED SLOW INTO POS TO LET X DEPART, AND SAW ACR Y DC8 ON FINAL FOR RWY 8R. IF X HAD BEEN CLRED TO GO THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROB. TWR DELAYED TKOF CLRNC. TWR ASKED Y FOR SPD AND HE SAID 160 KTS AS WE SAT ON RWY. FINALLY CLRED FOR TKOF AND TWR STATED THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK ACR Z, TAXI UP TO INTXN AND TURN OFF RWY TO R. I HAD PWR UP FOR ANTICIPATED TKOF AND MOVED QUICKLY TO INTXN AND SLOWED FOR 90 DEG R TURN. AS I CLRED MY TAIL FROM RWY, I HEARD MY FO EXCLAIM THAT WAS CLOSE AND SAW THE ACR Y DC8 TAIL GO BY OUT THE EYEBROW WINDOW. HE WAS ASKING, AND JUST GETTING CLRNC TO LAND AT ABOUT 50-75 FT. I AM SURE THAT ANYONE WATCHING WOULD CONSIDER THIS A NEAR MISS. NUMEROUS PAX AND 2 CREW MEMBERS IN THE CABIN, AN ACR A AND ACR B, COMMENTED ON THE CLOSENESS. 3 ACFT WERE IN LINE FOR TKOF, ACR Z WAS ONE, AND THEY GOT A GOOD VIEW. THIS SIT SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THIS FAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.