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Attributes | |
ACN | 334928 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : sdf tower : bwi |
Make Model Name | PA-23-250 Aztec |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 9 flight time last 90 days : 0 flight time total : 400 |
ASRS Report | 334928 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : flight data |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Working an aircraft into lex from west at 11000 ft wanted lower, coordinated (my D side) for 8000 ft with respect to eastbound aircraft at 10000 ft. Other controller at sdf advised my D side that 10000 ft traffic was turning north. My D side to me he was turning 'a little north.' I did a flight plan readout and saw that the 10000 ft was a C550, my 11000 ft traffic was a pazt. The C550 was 8 mi south of 11000 ft traffic and in front by 2-3 mi. Thinking that C550 would only be turning a 'little north' ie, maybe 30-40 degrees left, I descended my 11000 ft traffic to 8000 ft. C550 turned sharply north (90 degree turn) and separation was lost. I should have questioned 'how far north?' and also taken note of route of flight of C550 before issuing lower to my aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS WHEN RPTR DSNDS PAZT THROUGH ALT OF C550 ON A CONVERGING COURSE.
Narrative: WORKING AN ACFT INTO LEX FROM W AT 11000 FT WANTED LOWER, COORDINATED (MY D SIDE) FOR 8000 FT WITH RESPECT TO EBOUND ACFT AT 10000 FT. OTHER CTLR AT SDF ADVISED MY D SIDE THAT 10000 FT TFC WAS TURNING N. MY D SIDE TO ME HE WAS TURNING 'A LITTLE N.' I DID A FLT PLAN READOUT AND SAW THAT THE 10000 FT WAS A C550, MY 11000 FT TFC WAS A PAZT. THE C550 WAS 8 MI S OF 11000 FT TFC AND IN FRONT BY 2-3 MI. THINKING THAT C550 WOULD ONLY BE TURNING A 'LITTLE N' IE, MAYBE 30-40 DEGS L, I DSNDED MY 11000 FT TFC TO 8000 FT. C550 TURNED SHARPLY N (90 DEG TURN) AND SEPARATION WAS LOST. I SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED 'HOW FAR N?' AND ALSO TAKEN NOTE OF RTE OF FLT OF C550 BEFORE ISSUING LOWER TO MY ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.