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An air carrier flight crew was cleared for an ILS DME approach into lga, but the DME was inoperative. Several other aircraft were making this approach, also.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335460 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 22 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lga |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time total : 9000 |
| ASRS Report | 335460 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 335351 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were cleared for ILS DME runway 13 approach at lga. We were behind several other aircraft making this approach. As we commenced the approach the DME was not operating. We continued the approach using the lga VOR and DME and landed. Several aircraft behind us also completed the approach. After landing the ATIS was reporting 'ILS DME runway 13 approach in use, DME OTS.' on analysis, this approach is not legal without its DME, but all aircraft were cleared with DME out. Supplemental information from acn 335351: due to the late change in approachs we neglected to note that the DME was inoperative.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC WAS CLRED FOR AN ILS DME APCH INTO LGA, BUT THE DME WAS INOP. SEVERAL OTHER ACFT WERE MAKING THIS APCH, ALSO.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS DME RWY 13 APCH AT LGA. WE WERE BEHIND SEVERAL OTHER ACFT MAKING THIS APCH. AS WE COMMENCED THE APCH THE DME WAS NOT OPERATING. WE CONTINUED THE APCH USING THE LGA VOR AND DME AND LANDED. SEVERAL ACFT BEHIND US ALSO COMPLETED THE APCH. AFTER LNDG THE ATIS WAS RPTING 'ILS DME RWY 13 APCH IN USE, DME OTS.' ON ANALYSIS, THIS APCH IS NOT LEGAL WITHOUT ITS DME, BUT ALL ACFT WERE CLRED WITH DME OUT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 335351: DUE TO THE LATE CHANGE IN APCHS WE NEGLECTED TO NOTE THAT THE DME WAS INOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.