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Due to a problem on intercoord, the flight crew of an medium large transport failed to adhere to their clearance from departure control and climbed from assigned altitude before cleared.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 336230 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca tracon : rdu |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 336230 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Rdu approach was unable to hand our flight to ZDC and asked us to descend back to 10000 ft (we had been cleared to 12000 ft). Rdu was still unable to contact center on the landline and switched us to fay approach. My captain was very upset we were wasting fuel flying a jet at 10000 ft, called dca approach on the second radio, while I monitored fay approach. Dca said we were in radar contact and said climb to 16000 ft. We told fay approach we contacted dca and were cleared to 16000 ft. Fay controller sounded upset and demanded we stay at 10000 ft until he contacted center (on the landline). Now we have a conflict we can't obey the instructions from both controllers, so we called dca back and they told us to ignore approach and climb to 16000 ft so we did. We then told fay good-bye and said we were climbing to 16000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DUE TO A PROB ON INTERCOORD, THE FLC OF AN MLG FAILED TO ADHERE TO THEIR CLRNC FROM DEP CTL AND CLBED FROM ASSIGNED ALT BEFORE CLRED.
Narrative: RDU APCH WAS UNABLE TO HAND OUR FLT TO ZDC AND ASKED US TO DSND BACK TO 10000 FT (WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 12000 FT). RDU WAS STILL UNABLE TO CONTACT CTR ON THE LANDLINE AND SWITCHED US TO FAY APCH. MY CAPT WAS VERY UPSET WE WERE WASTING FUEL FLYING A JET AT 10000 FT, CALLED DCA APCH ON THE SECOND RADIO, WHILE I MONITORED FAY APCH. DCA SAID WE WERE IN RADAR CONTACT AND SAID CLB TO 16000 FT. WE TOLD FAY APCH WE CONTACTED DCA AND WERE CLRED TO 16000 FT. FAY CTLR SOUNDED UPSET AND DEMANDED WE STAY AT 10000 FT UNTIL HE CONTACTED CTR (ON THE LANDLINE). NOW WE HAVE A CONFLICT WE CAN'T OBEY THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM BOTH CTLRS, SO WE CALLED DCA BACK AND THEY TOLD US TO IGNORE APCH AND CLB TO 16000 FT SO WE DID. WE THEN TOLD FAY GOOD-BYE AND SAID WE WERE CLBING TO 16000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.