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Attributes | |
ACN | 337807 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mry |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4200 msl bound upper : 4200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mry |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : mry |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 337807 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While executing the localizer DME runway 28L into mry, the GPWS went 'crazy' with a couple of 'terrains,' a few 'pull- ups' and then another 20 'terrains.' this occurred just outside of rodne, the FAF, to just inside rodne. Since we were VMC, I continued the approach (I had the terrain in sight!). The radar altimeter showed 1200 ft at closest point. We continued getting 'terrains' even after the RA showed us more than 2500 ft AGL! Needless to say, most of the passenger woke-up on this one! A note should be on approach plates regarding possible GPWS warnings at specific locations along the final approach course. Reno, nv, localizer runway 34L is another example. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter indicated that the GPWS system uses an envelope of speed and rate of descent to project a terrain warning. He stated that he has flown the approach to mry at a slower speed and did not get the terrain warning. Reporter also indicated that a similar situation exists when making approachs to rno and acv.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC RECEIVED GPWS WARNINGS WHILE ON THE LOC DME APCH WITH PULL-UPS AND TERRAIN CALLS. ACFT RADAR ALTIMETER SHOWED 1200 FT AT CLOSEST POINT.
Narrative: WHILE EXECUTING THE LOC DME RWY 28L INTO MRY, THE GPWS WENT 'CRAZY' WITH A COUPLE OF 'TERRAINS,' A FEW 'PULL- UPS' AND THEN ANOTHER 20 'TERRAINS.' THIS OCCURRED JUST OUTSIDE OF RODNE, THE FAF, TO JUST INSIDE RODNE. SINCE WE WERE VMC, I CONTINUED THE APCH (I HAD THE TERRAIN IN SIGHT!). THE RADAR ALTIMETER SHOWED 1200 FT AT CLOSEST POINT. WE CONTINUED GETTING 'TERRAINS' EVEN AFTER THE RA SHOWED US MORE THAN 2500 FT AGL! NEEDLESS TO SAY, MOST OF THE PAX WOKE-UP ON THIS ONE! A NOTE SHOULD BE ON APCH PLATES REGARDING POSSIBLE GPWS WARNINGS AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS ALONG THE FINAL APCH COURSE. RENO, NV, LOC RWY 34L IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR INDICATED THAT THE GPWS SYS USES AN ENVELOPE OF SPD AND RATE OF DSCNT TO PROJECT A TERRAIN WARNING. HE STATED THAT HE HAS FLOWN THE APCH TO MRY AT A SLOWER SPD AND DID NOT GET THE TERRAIN WARNING. RPTR ALSO INDICATED THAT A SIMILAR SIT EXISTS WHEN MAKING APCHS TO RNO AND ACV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.