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Attributes | |
ACN | 338420 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 338420 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Lax ground told us to taxi to runway 25R via south route. We were at gate X, north side. Only 1 ground controller was in use, 121.75. When we reached taxiway sc, we did not stop because he said taxi to runway 25R. After we passed taxiway sc, he said we were to stop at taxiway southeast. I asked, since we were cleared runway 25R via south route, why were we supposed to stop. He said the airport diagram says to. I disagree. He (the only ground controller) said taxi runway 25R via south route and no hold short instructions were given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LTT CREW FAILED TO HOLD SHORT AT TXWY C AS SHOWN ON THE ARPT PAGE AT LAX.
Narrative: LAX GND TOLD US TO TAXI TO RWY 25R VIA S RTE. WE WERE AT GATE X, N SIDE. ONLY 1 GND CTLR WAS IN USE, 121.75. WHEN WE REACHED TXWY SC, WE DID NOT STOP BECAUSE HE SAID TAXI TO RWY 25R. AFTER WE PASSED TXWY SC, HE SAID WE WERE TO STOP AT TXWY SE. I ASKED, SINCE WE WERE CLRED RWY 25R VIA S RTE, WHY WERE WE SUPPOSED TO STOP. HE SAID THE ARPT DIAGRAM SAYS TO. I DISAGREE. HE (THE ONLY GND CTLR) SAID TAXI RWY 25R VIA S RTE AND NO HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.