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Attributes | |
ACN | 340050 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 19500 flight time type : 17000 |
ASRS Report | 340050 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
On descent into lga landing pattern, approach control gave us 3000 ft and up hudson river visually for a r-hand pattern to land runway 22 lga. The normal altitude is 4000 ft for this phase of flight. After flying for several mins at 3000 ft the controller asked if we were at 4000 ft. I replied, 'no we were at 3000 ft as he had cleared us.' he said 'oh, contact final control on 134.9.' nothing more was said and no aircraft were in our area according to our TCASII. Next time, under situation, I will ask controller if he is sure he means 3000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC QUESTIONS FLC RE THEIR ALT DURING A VISUAL APCH. MLG.
Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO LGA LNDG PATTERN, APCH CTL GAVE US 3000 FT AND UP HUDSON RIVER VISUALLY FOR A R-HAND PATTERN TO LAND RWY 22 LGA. THE NORMAL ALT IS 4000 FT FOR THIS PHASE OF FLT. AFTER FLYING FOR SEVERAL MINS AT 3000 FT THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE AT 4000 FT. I REPLIED, 'NO WE WERE AT 3000 FT AS HE HAD CLRED US.' HE SAID 'OH, CONTACT FINAL CTL ON 134.9.' NOTHING MORE WAS SAID AND NO ACFT WERE IN OUR AREA ACCORDING TO OUR TCASII. NEXT TIME, UNDER SIT, I WILL ASK CTLR IF HE IS SURE HE MEANS 3000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.