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Attributes | |
ACN | 340181 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 340181 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 340180 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Landed in denver overweight by about 1000 pounds. Flight was planned at FL290 because winds were light and flight was late, had to climb to FL330 to avoid turbulence. Saved fuel en route, but caused extra weight for landing. Because of convective build-ups en route denver, I did not notice the overweight condition developing. Could have maintained a lower altitude sooner or extended final approach to burn extra fuel. Overweight inspection was not performed based on 'kid' count onboard aircraft. Unable to certify exact 'kid' count, quick turn weight was exceeded, but maintenance certified brakes were within heat limits for next takeoff. Crew and maintenance were rushed by corporate 'on time' philosophy. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter flies the B737-300. His air carrier has a sliding scale for overweight lndgs, so this is why there was no inspection made. The 'kid count' is a count to see how many kids are aboard so that landing and takeoff weights can be adjusted downward. 'Kids' are weighed in at 70 pounds vice 170 pounds for adults.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CREW LANDED 1000 LBS OVERWT, LESS THAN 1 PERCENT OF MAX GROSS LNDG WT.
Narrative: LANDED IN DENVER OVERWT BY ABOUT 1000 LBS. FLT WAS PLANNED AT FL290 BECAUSE WINDS WERE LIGHT AND FLT WAS LATE, HAD TO CLB TO FL330 TO AVOID TURB. SAVED FUEL ENRTE, BUT CAUSED EXTRA WT FOR LNDG. BECAUSE OF CONVECTIVE BUILD-UPS ENRTE DENVER, I DID NOT NOTICE THE OVERWT CONDITION DEVELOPING. COULD HAVE MAINTAINED A LOWER ALT SOONER OR EXTENDED FINAL APCH TO BURN EXTRA FUEL. OVERWT INSPECTION WAS NOT PERFORMED BASED ON 'KID' COUNT ONBOARD ACFT. UNABLE TO CERTIFY EXACT 'KID' COUNT, QUICK TURN WT WAS EXCEEDED, BUT MAINT CERTIFIED BRAKES WERE WITHIN HEAT LIMITS FOR NEXT TKOF. CREW AND MAINT WERE RUSHED BY CORPORATE 'ON TIME' PHILOSOPHY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE B737-300. HIS ACR HAS A SLIDING SCALE FOR OVERWT LNDGS, SO THIS IS WHY THERE WAS NO INSPECTION MADE. THE 'KID COUNT' IS A COUNT TO SEE HOW MANY KIDS ARE ABOARD SO THAT LNDG AND TKOF WTS CAN BE ADJUSTED DOWNWARD. 'KIDS' ARE WEIGHED IN AT 70 LBS VICE 170 LBS FOR ADULTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.