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Attributes | |
ACN | 347040 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 347040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 347039 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed runway 8R, first officer flying. He did not get an identify at the MM so he did not turn to 070 degrees as instructed before takeoff. He did not hear or see the MM identify. We started the turn late. The controller asked why we did not make the turn. I replied we were in the turn. He told us to turn to 050 degrees. There was departing traffic on runway 9. I should have been more aggressive. I thought the first officer would start the turn, he did not. I should have told ATC no identify on the middle marker. Anyway, we made a late turn. The controller seemed irritated. Supplemental information from acn 347039: we did not see nor hear indication of MM passage. I should have turned at 1500 ft AGL in anticipation of the marker.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 DEPARTING RWY 8R FAILED TO TURN HDG 070 DEGS AT THE MM. CTLR ISSUED TURN TO 050 DEGS ACCOUNT DEPARTING TFC RWY 9. FO, PF, DID NOT HEAR THE MM. FEELS SHOULD HAVE STARTED TURN AT 1500 FT. CTLR UPSET.
Narrative: DEPARTED RWY 8R, FO FLYING. HE DID NOT GET AN IDENT AT THE MM SO HE DID NOT TURN TO 070 DEGS AS INSTRUCTED BEFORE TKOF. HE DID NOT HEAR OR SEE THE MM IDENT. WE STARTED THE TURN LATE. THE CTLR ASKED WHY WE DID NOT MAKE THE TURN. I REPLIED WE WERE IN THE TURN. HE TOLD US TO TURN TO 050 DEGS. THERE WAS DEPARTING TFC ON RWY 9. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE. I THOUGHT THE FO WOULD START THE TURN, HE DID NOT. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD ATC NO IDENT ON THE MIDDLE MARKER. ANYWAY, WE MADE A LATE TURN. THE CTLR SEEMED IRRITATED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 347039: WE DID NOT SEE NOR HEAR INDICATION OF MM PASSAGE. I SHOULD HAVE TURNED AT 1500 FT AGL IN ANTICIPATION OF THE MARKER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.