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Attributes | |
ACN | 350699 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ukw airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 350699 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Location: ukw 1 arrival between bambe and kagel. Don't know if this qualifies as no rules were broken. On the ukw 1 arrival, between fixes bambe and kagel, the approach controller gave us a heading of 100 degrees to avoid skydive aircraft 1000 ft above us on the arrival routing. Established on heading, we sighted the aircraft at our 1 O'clock and at 3 mi. The jumpers exited the aircraft and the aircraft initiated a steep descending turn. As the jumpers and aircraft descended through our altitude we received a TA only on TCASII from the aircraft. At that point they were passing by our 3 O'clock and just over 3 mi. The jumpers were clearly visible to us and the close proximity was very uncomfortable. The approach controller gave us adequate notice to turn and no further deviation was necessary. Our concern, however, is whether the operation of skydiving on major STAR routing is safe or even necessary. I spoke with the controller about this and he said it was not the first time it's happened. He was also concerned about the safety of it as well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FK10 CAPT RPTS THAT PARACHUTE JUMP ACFT ARE RELEASING JUMPERS INTO A NEW STAR RTE FOR DFW. JUMPERS ARE IN CONTACT WITH ATC SO TFC HAS BEEN EXCHANGED, HOWEVER, CAPT CLAIMS THAT THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SIT.
Narrative: LOCATION: UKW 1 ARR BTWN BAMBE AND KAGEL. DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUALIFIES AS NO RULES WERE BROKEN. ON THE UKW 1 ARR, BTWN FIXES BAMBE AND KAGEL, THE APCH CTLR GAVE US A HDG OF 100 DEGS TO AVOID SKYDIVE ACFT 1000 FT ABOVE US ON THE ARR ROUTING. ESTABLISHED ON HDG, WE SIGHTED THE ACFT AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK AND AT 3 MI. THE JUMPERS EXITED THE ACFT AND THE ACFT INITIATED A STEEP DSNDING TURN. AS THE JUMPERS AND ACFT DSNDED THROUGH OUR ALT WE RECEIVED A TA ONLY ON TCASII FROM THE ACFT. AT THAT POINT THEY WERE PASSING BY OUR 3 O'CLOCK AND JUST OVER 3 MI. THE JUMPERS WERE CLRLY VISIBLE TO US AND THE CLOSE PROX WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. THE APCH CTLR GAVE US ADEQUATE NOTICE TO TURN AND NO FURTHER DEV WAS NECESSARY. OUR CONCERN, HOWEVER, IS WHETHER THE OP OF SKYDIVING ON MAJOR STAR ROUTING IS SAFE OR EVEN NECESSARY. I SPOKE WITH THE CTLR ABOUT THIS AND HE SAID IT WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME IT'S HAPPENED. HE WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF IT AS WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.