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Attributes | |
ACN | 351680 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : atl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10200 flight time type : 3632 |
ASRS Report | 351680 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound to atl on the rome 8 arrival. Our clearance was to cross erlin intersection at 13000 ft then descend to 9000 ft. The aircraft was in VNAV descent and FMS was set to cross erlin at 250 KTS and 13000 ft. The captain selected 9000 ft in altitude select window. The aircraft was set to cross erlin at 13000 ft and we would have complied with the ATC clearance. Somewhere prior to 13000 ft the captain canceled VNAV and selected IAS on the autoplt. I didn't see this happen as I was getting gate information off the ACARS printer. Now the altitude restr at erlin was canceled and the aircraft would go direct to 9000 ft. As a result we crossed erlin at approximately 11000 ft. As it turned out the captain said he didn't realize we needed to cross erlin at 13000 ft and thought we were cleared directly to 9000 ft. I think fatigue had something to do with this incident because we had an XA00 am report at the airport and we were both tired that morning. This led to the breakdown in crew coordination because we were not aggressive in making sure we both understood the clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG CANCELED THE VNAV MODE FOR THE FMS CAUSING THE ACFT TO OVERSHOOT THE DSCNT ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND TO ATL ON THE ROME 8 ARR. OUR CLRNC WAS TO CROSS ERLIN INTXN AT 13000 FT THEN DSND TO 9000 FT. THE ACFT WAS IN VNAV DSCNT AND FMS WAS SET TO CROSS ERLIN AT 250 KTS AND 13000 FT. THE CAPT SELECTED 9000 FT IN ALT SELECT WINDOW. THE ACFT WAS SET TO CROSS ERLIN AT 13000 FT AND WE WOULD HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE ATC CLRNC. SOMEWHERE PRIOR TO 13000 FT THE CAPT CANCELED VNAV AND SELECTED IAS ON THE AUTOPLT. I DIDN'T SEE THIS HAPPEN AS I WAS GETTING GATE INFO OFF THE ACARS PRINTER. NOW THE ALT RESTR AT ERLIN WAS CANCELED AND THE ACFT WOULD GO DIRECT TO 9000 FT. AS A RESULT WE CROSSED ERLIN AT APPROX 11000 FT. AS IT TURNED OUT THE CAPT SAID HE DIDN'T REALIZE WE NEEDED TO CROSS ERLIN AT 13000 FT AND THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED DIRECTLY TO 9000 FT. I THINK FATIGUE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS INCIDENT BECAUSE WE HAD AN XA00 AM RPT AT THE ARPT AND WE WERE BOTH TIRED THAT MORNING. THIS LED TO THE BREAKDOWN IN CREW COORD BECAUSE WE WERE NOT AGGRESSIVE IN MAKING SURE WE BOTH UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.