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Attributes | |
ACN | 352660 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mso |
State Reference | MT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Caravan 1 208A |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : mso |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 8600 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 352660 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I had been cleared to and level at 10000 ft MSL. The approach controller 124.9 gave me the following clearance at 8 mi from the VOR, 'cross the VOR at or above 7700 ft, cleared for the VOR-C approach.' at 10000 ft MSL I had ground contact. At 8500 ft I was getting ready to call the visual when the controller called altitude alert, climb immediately. This transmission startled me so I stopped my descent and questioned the controller about the clearance. By this time I was over the VOR so I executed the approach. Had I been IMC I would not have started my descent until reaching the VOR. I feel that the controller should not have given me a clearance that put me below the MOCA which is 9800 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C208B ACFT WAS CLRED FOR THE APCH TO CROSS THE VOR AT OR ABOVE 7700 FT. RPTR PLT BELIEVED THAT CLRED HIM TO DSND TO 7700 FT FROM HIS PRESENT POS, BUT HE WAS NOT YET ON THE APCH COURSE. APCH CTLR CALLED ALT ALERT AND FOR RPTR TO CLB IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE HE HAD DSNDED BELOW THE MOCA.
Narrative: I HAD BEEN CLRED TO AND LEVEL AT 10000 FT MSL. THE APCH CTLR 124.9 GAVE ME THE FOLLOWING CLRNC AT 8 MI FROM THE VOR, 'CROSS THE VOR AT OR ABOVE 7700 FT, CLRED FOR THE VOR-C APCH.' AT 10000 FT MSL I HAD GND CONTACT. AT 8500 FT I WAS GETTING READY TO CALL THE VISUAL WHEN THE CTLR CALLED ALT ALERT, CLB IMMEDIATELY. THIS XMISSION STARTLED ME SO I STOPPED MY DSCNT AND QUESTIONED THE CTLR ABOUT THE CLRNC. BY THIS TIME I WAS OVER THE VOR SO I EXECUTED THE APCH. HAD I BEEN IMC I WOULD NOT HAVE STARTED MY DSCNT UNTIL REACHING THE VOR. I FEEL THAT THE CTLR SHOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN ME A CLRNC THAT PUT ME BELOW THE MOCA WHICH IS 9800 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.