ATC cleared an FK10 for a crossing restr, which the flight crew advised that they would not be able to make from their present position. ATC controller replied' do the best you can.'

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Attributes
ACN	353070
Time
Date	199611
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ric
State Reference	VA
Altitude	msl single value : 9000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : syr
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Fokker 100
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	enroute airway : zdc
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	other other : other pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	353070
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

ATC gave us an untimely descent clearance to cross 40 mi west of ric at 9000 ft. We stated that we could not comply with that crossing restr, based on our position and altitude. ATC did not issue an amended clearance, but issued the following instruction: 'do the best you can.' we consider this an inadequate clearance. Perhaps a vector off course and a standard descent clearance would have been the best course of action.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ATC CLRED AN FK10 FOR A XING RESTR, WHICH THE FLC ADVISED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE FROM THEIR PRESENT POS. ATC CTLR REPLIED' DO THE BEST YOU CAN.'

Narrative: ATC GAVE US AN UNTIMELY DSCNT CLRNC TO CROSS 40 MI W OF RIC AT 9000 FT. WE STATED THAT WE COULD NOT COMPLY WITH THAT XING RESTR, BASED ON OUR POS AND ALT. ATC DID NOT ISSUE AN AMENDED CLRNC, BUT ISSUED THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTION: 'DO THE BEST YOU CAN.' WE CONSIDER THIS AN INADEQUATE CLRNC. PERHAPS A VECTOR OFF COURSE AND A STANDARD DSCNT CLRNC WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.