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Attributes | |
ACN | 359430 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lse |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3400 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : msp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 350430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZMP cleared us down to 4000 ft and then cleared us to join the lse 14 DME arc to the runway 18 OM. The minimum altitude on the arc is 3400 ft. Once established on the arc, I asked my first officer if we were cleared down to 3400 ft and he said yes. Upon arriving at 3400 ft center asked our altitude and told us we should still be at 4000 ft and then cleared us for the approach. I should have verified with ATC whether we were cleared to 3400 ft instead of my first officer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION. NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC INSTRUCTION PROC.
Narrative: ZMP CLRED US DOWN TO 4000 FT AND THEN CLRED US TO JOIN THE LSE 14 DME ARC TO THE RWY 18 OM. THE MINIMUM ALT ON THE ARC IS 3400 FT. ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE ARC, I ASKED MY FO IF WE WERE CLRED DOWN TO 3400 FT AND HE SAID YES. UPON ARRIVING AT 3400 FT CTR ASKED OUR ALT AND TOLD US WE SHOULD STILL BE AT 4000 FT AND THEN CLRED US FOR THE APCH. I SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED WITH ATC WHETHER WE WERE CLRED TO 3400 FT INSTEAD OF MY FO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.