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Amended clearance altitude change given and executed by air carrier medium large transport. After level off and frequency change clearance disputed by second ARTCC radar controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 361160 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gve |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 361160 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight XXX, bwi direct clt. After an intermediate leveloff at FL230 we were talking to ZDC on 121.67. We were given a climb to FL290 by controller. Both 'call sign' and 'cleared to FL290' was read back. After leveloff at FL290 we were given frequency change for ZDC on 133.72. When checking in I stated 'call sign, level FL290.' new controller questioned what altitude we were cleared to and then told us to descend to FL280. First officer and I are sure of our clearance to FL290 and of my subsequent readback of same. Controller said there was no conflict and no problem. We suggested checking with previous controller and were told he was on break. Our suggestion to check tapes was answered with 'that's not necessary since there was no conflict' and 'that would initiate an official investigation.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AMENDED CLRNC ALT CHANGE GIVEN AND EXECUTED BY ACR MLG. AFTER LEVEL OFF AND FREQ CHANGE CLRNC DISPUTED BY SECOND ARTCC RADAR CTLR.
Narrative: FLT XXX, BWI DIRECT CLT. AFTER AN INTERMEDIATE LEVELOFF AT FL230 WE WERE TALKING TO ZDC ON 121.67. WE WERE GIVEN A CLB TO FL290 BY CTLR. BOTH 'CALL SIGN' AND 'CLRED TO FL290' WAS READ BACK. AFTER LEVELOFF AT FL290 WE WERE GIVEN FREQ CHANGE FOR ZDC ON 133.72. WHEN CHKING IN I STATED 'CALL SIGN, LEVEL FL290.' NEW CTLR QUESTIONED WHAT ALT WE WERE CLRED TO AND THEN TOLD US TO DSND TO FL280. FO AND I ARE SURE OF OUR CLRNC TO FL290 AND OF MY SUBSEQUENT READBACK OF SAME. CTLR SAID THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND NO PROB. WE SUGGESTED CHKING WITH PREVIOUS CTLR AND WERE TOLD HE WAS ON BREAK. OUR SUGGESTION TO CHK TAPES WAS ANSWERED WITH 'THAT'S NOT NECESSARY SINCE THERE WAS NO CONFLICT' AND 'THAT WOULD INITIATE AN OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.